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O/T Florida Sinkhole ??

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John B.

03-04-2013 07:49:34




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My family and I got talking about the bedroom that fell into the sinkhole.

Seems like to us they're not wasting any time on tearing down that house and any other time it would take weeks if not months to decide that.

They have cameras that they can send down there we thought before they tear down the house. Yes the house would have to come down no doubt.

Something just seems kind of fishy if you ask us. Any one else feel this way?

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Diydave

03-04-2013 15:57:35




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to John B., 03-04-2013 07:49:34  
Pity that it didn't show up at 1600 PA ave, NW DC. We're all in that hole!



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Notjustair

03-04-2013 15:37:32




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to John B., 03-04-2013 07:49:34  
Fishy in the least! I thought the same thing. I have a cistern that's 20 feet across with poured concrete as the top. Sure, it gives me the willies to walk on it but it has held since 1933. Something there isn't right.

We rented a quarter of ground that was next to ours. It had a mineral well on it. We went to check cows one day and happened to look over and saw a huge sinkhole. At the time it was probably 75 foot across. Maybe 50 feet deep. It was right at where that well was - you could still see the old rusty drill pipe sticking up in the middle. There was NO SIGN of all of that dirt. It was all water at the bottom. We watched it over the next month or so. It probably ended up 200 foot across. Not sure what ever happened as that quarter got sold later. If I mapped it I'm sure it still looks like a pond from space.

Scary thing was that two weeks before we cut wheat on that ground. I sat right beside that well in the grain truck. That made a teenager think, I'll tell you.

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Weldon K

03-04-2013 18:46:57




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to Notjustair, 03-04-2013 15:37:32  
Where did the story you tell happen? What state & county?



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ss55

03-04-2013 11:57:57




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to John B., 03-04-2013 07:49:34  
Two guesses.

The city and local realators may not have liked all the negative publicity.

Neighbors and their insurance comanies wanted to know if they need to move their houses before the hole expands too far. Geologists could not answer because they could not see what was underneath with the house covering the hole. Under ground utilities may need to be re-routed.



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ShadetreeRet

03-04-2013 10:49:54




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to John B., 03-04-2013 07:49:34  
John, you mentioned the concrete floor of the house. My understanding is that it is (or was) common practice In Florida to build houses on a concrete pad. My first thought was, "What, no reinforcement in the concrete?" It looks like that in that type soil they would at least have to reinforce the pad in order to keep it from cracking so bad if the house settled, and that should have kept it from falling completely into the sinkhole. And yes, I find it a little unusual that they would move that fast to destroy the house.

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Texasmark1

03-04-2013 20:40:28




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to ShadetreeRet, 03-04-2013 10:49:54  
Wife's parents had a house built on a concrete slab with no rebar. Seems the city inspector looked the other way. You could be on one side of the house and look under the walls clear across the house. After we got married and would visit her house, we had to behave. Course we were just married then and that was not an easy task.

My bet is that it had no rebar or it would have held together without anything under it. Not enough weight there to break through with it.

Maybe the demolition was to cover up the fact that the hood was like my wife's and it was as said, bad publicity for the realtors.

Course the wife's folks house was built for returning GIs from the big war.

Mark

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bison

03-04-2013 22:56:55




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to Texasmark1, 03-04-2013 20:40:28  
I pity the guy that went in it.

One minute he's minding his own bussines sleeping,..the next min..instant live burial..."Ell of a way to go. :shock:
Well at least the familie saves themselves the funeral costs.



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Bob Bancroft

03-04-2013 10:56:30




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to ShadetreeRet, 03-04-2013 10:49:54  
I was thinking the same thing. But then I remember hearing masons saying- "where is it going to go"? I'll bet this house was thrown up by a developer as cheaply and quickly as possible. Makes a lot of difference if you're building it for yourself.



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Retired Farmer

03-04-2013 10:42:44




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to John B., 03-04-2013 07:49:34  
Anything else they would have to investigate it to death before they did anything. Government lacks any type of common sense anymore. I feel sorry for the poor family.



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Mike M

03-04-2013 10:37:35




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to John B., 03-04-2013 07:49:34  
I'd of thought if they wait a day or so more ? it would all be in the hole ,why tear it down ?
Use it as fill.



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Mark W.

03-04-2013 09:07:39




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to John B., 03-04-2013 07:49:34  
All I know is that I would NOT want to be the one operating the excavator.



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gtractorfan

03-04-2013 13:50:28




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to Mark W., 03-04-2013 09:07:39  
Yehbut, did you notice how long the boom is on it?



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Dalex

03-04-2013 09:00:11




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to John B., 03-04-2013 07:49:34  
How about they let the family gather their belongings with a reach forklift and a work platform. I watched them push a closet full of clothes down the hole.They forced them to lose all their belongings,for what ? they didn't look all that prosperous......



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Fixerupper

03-04-2013 10:42:23




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to Dalex, 03-04-2013 09:00:11  
Yesterday on the news they said the house would be partly torn down so the family can gather some belongings. I wonder how many belongings went down the hole.Jim



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WGWKy2

03-04-2013 08:06:13




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to John B., 03-04-2013 07:49:34  
I have worked oround sinkholes here in central Ky. and the first thing we do is clear the area. You can't work in or even look in a sinkhole with the weight of a house on the edge. My uncle went in a sinkhole with his bulldozer, the first thing we did was remove trees and the dozer, then the longstick excavater could do its thing. We never know how big that cove might be. The longest cave in the world is here in Ky.

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IrvIA

03-04-2013 08:14:44




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to WGWKy2, 03-04-2013 08:06:13  
Mamoth Cave right? We were in it many years ago. At that time I think it was 52 miles explored.....could that be right??
Irv



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WGWKy2

03-04-2013 09:56:43




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to IrvIA, 03-04-2013 08:14:44  
Yes Mammoth Cave, I think a recent story has it at 367 miles expecting over 400 soon.



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88-1175

03-04-2013 07:56:43




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to John B., 03-04-2013 07:49:34  
seems that way to me too.the house doesnt look all that big,id think the floor would have spanned the hole and not colapsed into it.most bedrooms have at least one outside wall,and from the pics they dont appear compromised.



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John B.

03-04-2013 08:02:12




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 Re: O/T Florida Sinkhole ?? in reply to 88-1175, 03-04-2013 07:56:43  
They said the bedroom floor was a concrete pad. You would think the walls would of showed some tell-tale signs. But from what I saw on the news they never showed the back of the house.



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