Funny you mention the old tent, I had one as a kid and used it a lot. I always remember my Dad telling me that if it starts raining, don't touch the material or it will leak. Many uses and it never rained, and I even dug the trench around the base as I was taught. Then one day it rained on a trip. Yep you guessed it, I had to confirm what my Dad told me not to do. Sleeping bag got soaked, I got soaked...sheesh. Later I advanced to a 62 Falcon station wagon, much nicer. Then at age 16 I got a cab over camper, talk about living high style. Many different RV's over the years and finally ended up with this set up we purchased in 97. Still have it, hardly ever use it though. Just costs too much now in my opinion. Maybe I should buy a tent again and start all over! Watching your thread for opinions!