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Ed The Wine Farmer

12-27-2012 18:30:24
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I got one yesterday. A few days before, I got a robo phone call telling me that I must fill it out or they would keep asking. Looks like the big "O" is fishing for money.




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coonie minnie

12-27-2012 20:08:34
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 Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Ed The Wine Farmer, 12-27-2012 18:30:24  
Yes, the survey is a pain.

But if you ever want anything from FSA, or if you are proud of anything you do in agriculture, you'd better fill it out. All the statistics about how many jobs you create, dollars put in the oommunity, etc come from your survey. So does all the information about what programs are important, and which are not.

If you think farming is irrelavant to this country, and you want governmenbt to ignore ag's importance, then by all means throw it away.

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JD Seller

12-28-2012 01:45:04
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 Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to coonie minnie, 12-27-2012 20:08:34  
Coonie how much money do you have in your checking account??? How about your retirement plan??? Come on now, that information will allow benefits to many on this grand public forum.

When I asked you this it sounds silly but that IS exactly what the government is asking ME. It is no ones business what I grow, own or control.

I do not remember seeing a corporate census ever being published. If a large company like Cargil can say it is privately held and that they do not have to make reports to the government then I should be allowed the same rights. Just because I farm does not mean that I should have to divulge anything about my personal business.

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jackinok

12-28-2012 07:10:55
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 Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to JD Seller, 12-28-2012 01:45:04  
ha ha ha . They have your name,they have your address, they have your ss number. You really dont think they cant check your bank account? Heres a news flash,you have enough money in your account your BANKER has to report it for you!! Your not divulging anything they dont know or cant find out. All they have to do is look at last years tax forms. Just saves the taxpayer money by you doing it instead of another clerk on the gov payroll. All kinds of info comes from the ag reports, how folks are impacted by droughts,floods etc. How many cattle are on hand. How many acres of what crops are planted etc etc. All sorts of things and some of them directly impact national security. Dont fill it out if you dont want to,but if you think your in some way hiding something from them by not doing so,your fooling yourself. Walk into the local fsa office,they can tell you exactly how many acres you farm even if they have never been on your place or youve never met them. Probably could tell you what color nightgown your wife wears if they wanted to,because its nearly all checked by satelite photography these days. LOL. I dont mind filling them out, makes no difference whatsoever. And i like reading the ag reports. Somewhere around here i have the first one ever published. but they dont tell you anything you could use for or against anyone. And you CAN use them to track trends in markets etc. Knowing for instance how many cattle have gone to market in an area due to folks selling off because of the drought ,you may want to hold some more heifers and haul them to another market when rains crank up again. Knowing what area averages 29 ba wheat or another that produces 50 might be handy to know if your looking to re-locate. Thats what these are for, they are not some insideous plan by a gov agency. If they want to do that they dont normaly send you a letter telling you so!

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Buzzman72

12-28-2012 02:24:57
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 Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to JD Seller, 12-28-2012 01:45:04  
I currently work a temp job at the Census Bureau...and at the same time we were printing the AG survey, we were also printing an Economic survey that went to other businesses.

So you're badly mistaken if you think that businesses don't get a similar form from the Census Bureau. Besides...where do you think the business statistics that the government tells the media comes from? They come from responses to similar surveys that are sent out by the Census Bureau; they're NOT just made up out of thin air, as you seem to believe.

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JD Seller

12-28-2012 07:13:51
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 Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to Buzzman72, 12-28-2012 02:24:57  
That business survey DOES Not ask the same type of questions that the farm census does. It asks how many workers you have. Then what percentage you think you business is going up and down. That type of questions. It does not ask for your exact production numbers and that sort of thing.



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PJH

12-27-2012 21:51:55
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 Re: US census of Agriculture in reply to coonie minnie, 12-27-2012 20:08:34  
Coonie - you're a pretty sharp guy!



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