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Topic: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions
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Zachary Hoyt

12-27-2012 10:33:39
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I am thinking about building a new building to replace a 28x60 pole barn we have here. With the wind and snow we get the pole barn gets a lot of snow drifted in it and it is not really worth putting sides on in my opinion. The whole thing was built before we came here and was in my opinion a bad idea poorly executed. The original poles were untreated red pine set in the dirt which rotted off at ground level and I replaced them with 6x6 treated poles a few years ago. The trusses were homemade and the break in the bottom chord was put in the wrong place so they pulled apart and before our time someone bolted fish plates on them. The pole barn was built to protect a 40' shipping container that was being used for storage and was getting rusty on top. The container is about 4 feet from one side of the pole barn and breaks up the space and makes it less useful, and the container itself has limited utility because it is so long and narrow that nearly half of it has to be left open to walk through. I would like someday to remove the container, take down the pole barn and build a proper building with walls and a decent frame. I am wondering if anyone can tell me what you see containers sell for and how hard or expensive they are to move when empty. Any advice will be much appreciated.
Zach

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jm.

12-27-2012 11:58:48
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-27-2012 10:33:39  
Zach Ten years ago I was buying true Ocean going containers (there is a difference) for a thousand to twelve hundred. Now good used domestic (lighter) containers are minimum of two thousand on up. Have a fold down rear load true implement trailer that I pull with conventional road tractor. Moving on is no trouble for me . Most times just throw down about three round fence post and just use winch to pull the container on. I am the other way here . Have several buildings where we place two containers 30 ft apart and bridge the middle with bar joist and roof. Makes a good cheap building. Don,t know where you are located but should not be too hard to sell you container.

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da.bees

12-27-2012 10:57:18
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-27-2012 10:33:39  
Same as valueing a used truck,condition and finding a buyer effects going price.

Around here 20' containers sell better than 40' and bring $500 to $1,000. 40' can be a problem to move where as a roll-back can easyly move a 20'.



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uncle henry

12-27-2012 10:47:12
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-27-2012 10:33:39  

used a sky track to lift up one end of this one backed trailer under half then lifted the other end and backed under the rest of it



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Zachary Hoyt

12-27-2012 10:58:44
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to uncle henry, 12-27-2012 10:47:12  
Thank you, that is an interesting way to do it. Any idea what the one you moved might have weighed?
Zach



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uncle henry

12-27-2012 11:46:53
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-27-2012 10:58:44  
i don't know its all aluminum ben there is right on steel ones



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old

12-27-2012 11:25:26
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-27-2012 10:58:44  
I would love to have one like you have but cost to much for me right now. I want to tar it up good cover with old dock foam I have then bury in the hill side as a root cellar/storm shelter/hidy hole. In my are if you can find something like that it runs around $2500



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GordoSD

12-27-2012 18:41:23
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to old, 12-27-2012 11:25:26  
Why would you need a 6000 cubic foot root cellar? You could store 100 quarts of veggies in about 25 cu ft. 10,000 rounds of ammo in 16 cu ft.
A tornado shelter 10x6x8 would be good. (500 cu ft)
Downsize your dream and make it happen. My "Hidey hole" is a walk down 5x10x6 concrete septic tank buried in the shop floor. Enough for a 10 minute stay.



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old

12-27-2012 18:59:23
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to GordoSD, 12-27-2012 18:41:23  
I want something big so if push comes to shove I could live in it and be where few would ever see me. I spent to much time in places that where small like a sub and do not want to do so again



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Ray

12-27-2012 12:34:07
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to old, 12-27-2012 11:25:26  
Some places they are not allowed by zoning.



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MSD

12-27-2012 15:11:57
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to Ray, 12-27-2012 12:34:07  
My son got caught with one by the zoning guy. Made him get rid of it. It's claimed around here they use Google Earth to check farm places and acreage's for illegal buildings. Neighbor got notice to get rid of old car setting in back of his garage hidden by the trees from the road so might be so.



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old

12-27-2012 13:00:48
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to Ray, 12-27-2012 12:34:07  
No zoning laws in my area plus where I live if some one saw what I was doing they would have to trespass to do so, so they would be in trouble more then I would be since there is no law in this area for me to worry about but they do have to worry about the trespass law



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jm.

12-27-2012 14:41:44
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to old, 12-27-2012 13:00:48  
Old.. I have one completely underground, would send you photos if was not so bad outside. First try and get one called an overseas container. They are painted and coated with a galvanized type paint won,t rust. Put the insulation on the outside , if not will sweat underground. Last I went to a local friend that was a roofer and got a full piece of rubber roofing , covered the entire thing before I put the dirt on top. This one has been buried now for over 15 years with no problems.
Took a D 9 dug a long slot and backed the truck with container down in it and slid it off. Backfilled a little at a time till I got it filled.

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old

12-27-2012 16:37:36
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to jm., 12-27-2012 14:41:44  
In my area the over seas type is extra hard to come by because we is so far form any real big body of water. I would love to have one or 2 maybe 3 of them but for what I hear they sell for my never have the $$ to do so. If I do ever get one the idea would be to coat with tar etc then lay the dock foam on top and on the sides then use plastic etc to cover the foam then dirt. But at this time it is a dream but dreams do come true some times LOL

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M Becker

12-27-2012 15:17:37
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to jm., 12-27-2012 14:41:44  
If you put it all underground, what do you use it for? Summer cabin in the woods?



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ben there

12-27-2012 11:05:44
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 Re: 40' shipping container/pole barn questions in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-27-2012 10:58:44  
my 40 footer weighs 8800# empty.
should have weight on door.



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