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I have a sick Angus steer calf, he was diagnosed last week with pneumonia, and the vet gave him antibiotic + vitamins/pain killer to increase his appetite. He continues to get worse, light cough/wheezing, won't eat now for several days. That was the 2nd time we took him to the vet, a month ago he had a cold/slight fever, he's always been a little depressed acting. He won't eat but his stomach is very round. I can't figure out why he has such a "grass belly". I'd say he's getting close to the end. Is there a common digestive disorder/block that also fits these symptoms? Any ideas? If it is pneumonia then how long does it take for the shots to help out? Its been 7 days.
 
Should have taken him back to vet already. Get him back in ASAP. Maybe vet can make a better diagnoses now. Sould like you will lose him without help. tom
 
Hardware disease comes to mind. Based on those symptoms. Fairly easy to diagnose with a metal detector.... And a "cow magnet" down the hatch usually helps.
 
If he's not eating, but has a big ,round "grass belly", it sounds like he has Bloat. Something's blocking his digestive tract & the little that he has eaten is fermenting in his stomach and producing gas which is trapped in the stomach.

Get him back to the Vet NOW or you will lose him for sure.
 
no house calls? i've never heard of hauling sick livestock to the vet. those trips and handling can't be helping him any.
 
If its his first stomach bloating, you can put a trach tube down his throat and let it vent.
If that don't work, you will have to stab them in the side to relieve gas. I would either have the vet do it or if you want, have a veal calf butcher party and dissect the animal to see what the cause was. Depending on the size of the calf. If its less than 400lb it would be more of a science project than a freezer filling expedition.

I have butchered many deer as well, that weigh about what a calf does, but don't have the bone mass, so its a crap shoot.
 
It might just have swallowed a plastic bag and this has caused the blockage. The breathing problem could be from the bloating, compressing on the lungs.Ask the vet about a dose of liquid paraffin. Sometimes too much clover in the diet can have the same effect and the stomach may have to be 'stabbed' to relieve the gas.
Just some of the problems I faced as a dairy farmer, but do ask your vet as I can only make suggestions and I am not a vet!
Sam
 
Most of the Vets around me have facilities to work on large animals at their office. The advantage to them is they can do more timely work with the correct equipment. The advantage to the farmer is that you can get livestock looked at faster and cheaper than a farm visit. A farm call here is $75 just for the call.
 
The shots would have kicked in in 12 hours. A 2nd dose the next morning probably was in order. After 3 days any residual was out of his system. He"s on his own.
 
Had an Angus cow that had same symptoms. Vet came out, said she had a twisted stomach. We rolled her over and that did the trick! It happened again with her the next year, did it myself that time, no vet bill. Wouldn't hurt to try it on yours.
 
Sorry to dampen your enthusiasm, but this calf sounds like a goner. He's probably had lung issues since a baby calf...the last treatment didn't do any good so it's not the time to be spending a bunch more via vet bills. Give him LA 200 according to directions....slight chance this might get him up and eating again. If he does respond, give him another round in 3 days. Some times some are just born to die sooner than others. Fact of livestock raising.
 
I agree with that JD but nothing more stressful on an animal than catching it, loading it and hauling it to the vet, where you then have to do the same thing all over again. Besides, $75.00 vs hooking up the trailer and hauling it is pretty cheap. If a person has livestock, they need to have the capabilities to hold and work them. ?Bob
 
I agree with that JD but nothing more stressful on an animal than catching it, loading it and hauling it to the vet, where you then have to do the same thing all over again. Besides, $75.00 vs hooking up the trailer and hauling it is pretty cheap. If a person has livestock, they need to have the capabilities to hold and work them. ?Bob
 
good vets are getting scarcer than hens teeth.you have two choices here,take him to the vet ,leave him, and spend more money than any four healthy ones will make you, or put him in the freezer. let this be learning experience,you can give that calf a shot as well as any vet, you can buy all the equipment AND the medicine for your whole herd ( AND YOU SHOULD GIVE YOUR WHOLE HERD A SHOT TODAY,RIGHT NOW, BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE,) for the cost of one trip to your vet. if that calfs sick,if any calfs sick,thats been with your other animals they all need doctoring. one five dollar shot can save you all the money you will make in a year. IF your so called vet didnt tell you this, your wasting time and money with him. my advice keep him as far from other animals as you can, dont put him in a barn where other animals go. if hes down either do whatever you have to to get him up,or roll him over every day. you dont cure pnemonia with one shot, you wasted money giving him shots to eat, if hes down he shouldnt eat much,it makes it worse. everything youve done has just cost you money and done no good. youve got a choice, dr him your self (just like you would a kid with a cold), or leave him at the vet and pay him too. I dont mean to sound cold or be hard on you, but a vet should be your last resort quite honestly, if your going to raise animals your going to lose one sometimes. and if your going to raise animals youll never make a dime paying a vet all your profits. vets dont make house calls anymore for one simple reason,all the info available on animals is readily available to everyone as well as the equipment to use it. they have lots at their offices because thats where your calf should be ,as far from your other cattle as possible.
 
I'd get a vet out there if you want to save the cow.

The stomach's probably been the problem all along.

Better to have the vet come to you - that cow's probably in a lot of pain with its stomach stretching out like that. Could be twisted, could be blocked. Do him the favor of not handling him too much.

If you want to push the issue, the vet might give you a break on price if they misdiagnosed it the first time.
 
Well he passed away, but he was suffering and was never going to be right or profitable. So I guess thats for the best. I hate it but I had him to the vet twice and tried. I"m going to try to get some sort of set-up built where I can medically handle them at home, maybe this Summer. We"ve just got 3-6 at any time and I"d say we"re not doing things much different than Abe Lincoln"s parents did other than they get initial vaccines at the auction. Hard to justify a head gate, $2000 right now at Tractor Supply, as far as used, I"ve looked around but they"re not easy to find.
 
You don't need thousands in fancy handling equipment. All you need is a good halter, a nose lead, a post to tie to, and maybe a gate or two. We doctored many hundreds of cows with nothing more than that.

...a vet giving you a price break for misdiagnosing it before? HA! I've watched vets *KILL* cows right in front of my eyes because they misdiagnosed. They shrug their shoulders, pack up, and write you a bill.

The local vet clinics have the blood of dozens of Dad's cows on their hands because they screwed up, over a 35 year period. Not once did they ever apologize or offer to pay for the dead animal. They ALWAYS sent a bill for everything they did, down to the amount of soap they used to clean their boots when they left, and if you refused to pay, they'd just send it to collections and ruin your credit.
 
Watch auctions with livestock equipment. I bought my headgate/squeeze chute on an auction, probably 15 years ago. I don't remember what I paid, but I am sure it wasn't much. Maybe 300 dollars? Its inside and has all the paint on it as new. I prefer to run cattle through the chute out of the weather.

Sorry to hear about your calf, its not always easy to lose one.
 
Nice- Heather Smith Thomas has a book out available though Amazon and TSC called "Cattle Health". Heather is a cow woman/rancher. Good book. It dosen't take thousands to doctor cows, like the man said, some rope and a solid post and you can do most of it.
 

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