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Re: E-bay last second bid jump

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Jocco

12-26-2012 12:27:51
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Some people have a program called a snipe it puts a bid in in the last few seconds and no one (like you) has time to react. The idea is to help the bidder get it for a better price as if he bid against you early on that item you could have put another hundred on it. BASICALLY EBAY AUCTIONARE DETERMINED IN THE LAST 10 SECONDS.




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da.bees

12-26-2012 12:33:56
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 Re: E-bay last second bid jump in reply to Jocco, 12-26-2012 12:27:51  
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I don't understand why that gives an advantage over summiting your high bid at the onset. You do understand your bid will only increase by predetemined amounts until your max is reached?



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TomH in PA

12-26-2012 15:25:06
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 Re: E-bay last second bid jump in reply to da.bees, 12-26-2012 12:33:56  
"I don"t understand why that gives an advantage over summiting your high bid at the onset"

A shill bidder will work up slowly to your max bid. They can tell when they get close because it doesn"t increase by the usual amount, just up to your max. If they go over you know they only bid just over your bid because they were inching up so you"re tempted to bid again. But either way they ran you up.

Wait to the last second if you want the item at a fair price (eBay shows you how much time is left). Or bid your max early and don"t bid again.

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Errin OH

12-26-2012 12:56:49
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 Re: E-bay last second bid jump in reply to da.bees, 12-26-2012 12:33:56  
I am a last minute'r. Basically it does two things

1) Keeps me from doing something stupid like coming back and bidding more.
2) Out bids the stupid.

Yes I know how it works, but there are many who don't. I have seen folks make 50 separate bids trying to find someone else’s max. I only bid once at the end and eliminate the idiot who keeps bidding a dollar more, a dollar more, a dollar more…...

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SweetFeet

12-26-2012 12:46:43
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 Re: E-bay last second bid jump in reply to da.bees, 12-26-2012 12:33:56  
I agree with Jocko, people either use some program or manually throw a bid out there in the last seconds.

Sometimes it does seem if you bid "early-on", then the bidding war gets out of control. We don't bid in the last seconds... but we do tend to wait until nearer the end of the auction to see if the item has remained in a range where we are still interested in bidding on it.



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da.bees

12-26-2012 12:57:47
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 Re: E-bay last second bid jump in reply to SweetFeet, 12-26-2012 12:46:43  
So the whole thing has to do with all bidders waiting until the last minute to bid but I still don't understand how youall determine wherther a previous bidder placed a "max bid" or wherther they are using a "program" or some other unfair method to bid.



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SweetFeet

12-26-2012 14:21:35
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 Re: E-bay last second bid jump in reply to da.bees, 12-26-2012 12:57:47  
da.bees,

If it can be determined, I don't know how to tell if someone is using bidding software or has just entered a max bid.

But one can click the "bids" link to see the bidding history and see the increments that bids "raise" until you have topped it. But I for sure, cannot tell if it is due to bidding software - or it is just that they have entered their "max" bid so ebay is increasing it in increments.

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MisterT

12-26-2012 14:54:17
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 Re: E-bay last second bid jump in reply to SweetFeet, 12-26-2012 14:21:35  
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The bid snipes do not come into play until the very last few seconds. The best approach to winning what you want is to simply enter your MAXIMUM bid right at the start and then forget about it. If no one else bids, you will win that item for the amount of the opening bid, NOT your maximum bid. If one or two others bid, then your bid will be increased automatically, but only by the amount needed to outbid the others, unless of course the other bidders actually bid MORE than your max bid, in which case they probably bid more than it is worth, and they can have it. Also, and Ebay will never admit this, but there ARE shill bidders, acting on behalf of the seller. If those shill bidders outbid your max bid, then guess what? You didn't win it, but niether did the seller sell it, and that item WILL be listed again. So it all comes back to bidding what you are willing to pay right at the start, and then forget about it.

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