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Traditional Farmer 12-12-2012 10:22:26 67.233.70.253 Report to Moderator	Thats what Socialism is all about the new system were heading into,some are in denial but will realize it soon enough.Take from the working folks and give it to the lazy ones that sit around.Always fails but its a b*tch in the meantime for those working.These days a good estate/trust lawyer is worth their weight in at least Silver probably not Gold(LOL)a good one can get you thru the inhertiance maze in one piece. Also another reason land ain't the investment it used to be less visible assets with no deeds or titles are the way to go these days. [Reply]   [No Email]
Earl Gray 12-12-2012 10:56:00 68.235.89.15 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-12-2012 10:22:26   Don't forget the cost of paranoia, starting wars to look for weapons of mas destruction that weren't there, going into Afghanistan after the Russians left with their tail between their legs! What made W think we could do any better? The cost of that war would of solved all our health car problems and then some. If we had a decent health care system like DEVELLOPED countries more people would retire and that would solve our unemployment problem. And the cost of the so-called border protection! When you get 100 mile or less from the Canadian border there are customs and immigration vehicles all over, that isn't cheap, and what for?   [Reply]  [No Email]
Diydave 12-12-2012 17:33:00 96.244.155.142 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to Earl Gray, 12-12-2012 10:56:00   Developed countries, like Greece, Italy, France, and England? Give us a big old gapped tooth English smile, as the economy plummets like the titanic!   [Reply]  [No Email]
oldtanker 12-12-2012 12:28:34 66.228.255.239 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to Earl Gray, 12-12-2012 10:56:00   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see LOL, I've live in Germany and have seen thier health care system first hand. Better off Germans have private health insurance so they can get better care than the smuck on the street! Look at Englands system. A former member of parlament who worked hard to get thier health care system in place placed themselves on the waiting list to be treated for an eye problem. When that person went blindin one eye decided waiting on the system wasn't smart and paid for treatments after that. The border issue is as you say wasteful at best. But you cannot blame the president for bad intel. Only thing the POTUS can do with something like that is fire the head of the angency involved.......kinda like the head of the justice department over the gun walking thing. He's the boss. He's responsible for what his agency messes up, and he should get canned just as the former president should have canned the head of the CIA. I know I'm darn sure going to talk to a lawyer soon about this inheritance stuff. May all be over nothing but sometimes it pays to be careful. Rick   [Reply]  [No Email]
Earl Gray 12-12-2012 12:48:00 68.235.89.15 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to oldtanker, 12-12-2012 12:28:34   I think you have found some isolated cases, I could produce some like that in the states too! I know many Canadians ant they all are very happy with their health care system. If Germany is so bad why is their life expectancy 2 years longer than ours, for half the cost? We are getting $crewed by big insurance companies and the medical profession!   [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 12-13-2012 04:22:31 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to Earl Gray, 12-12-2012 12:48:00   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see You want a system like Britaiin has where they starve and dehydrate people to death if they feel it's not worth the cost of keeping them alive? Check the recent headlines on "NHS road to death".   [Reply]  [No Email]
oldtanker 12-12-2012 16:23:29 66.228.255.239 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to Earl Gray, 12-12-2012 12:48:00   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Nope that's the norm. You can research it and look at all sides of if you wish to. I lived over there for a total of 9 years and knew a lot of Germans. Most of them I knew were not very happy with the governement health care system and carried additional insurance so they would get better care. The Germans are a good deal more active than most Americans. Gas is ver expensive so things like four wheelers and jet skis are for the rich only. But they have Volks Marches almost every weekend some place in Germany plus sport "platz" (mostly soccer fields) all over the place. Germans are not afraid of physical activity. Wait till we get "national health care and everyone working is paying 50%, yes 50% of the money they make in taxes (thats not only going to be income taxes but national sales tax too...that way everyone pays). That free health care isn't free. Us folks that earn money will pay for it though our noses. Most health insurance companies are operating on less than a 10% profit margin. Only one or 2 are over that 10% mark. The for profit health care providers are the real bandits here. And they are avoiding taxes by expanding or building new facilities all over the place that are really not needed. Maybe spending a little time doing some research instead of spouting party rhetoric would do you some good. Now back to the subject at hand.....what do you have to add about the death taxes? Rick   [Reply]  [No Email]
Dave in GA 12-12-2012 18:43:58 98.92.58.50 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to oldtanker, 12-12-2012 16:23:29   If Germans live longer than us, it"s because they drink REAL beer. Americans are hooked on weak tasting lite beers.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Earl Gray 12-12-2012 18:08:26 68.235.89.15 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to oldtanker, 12-12-2012 16:23:29   Set up a trust!   [Reply]  [No Email]
dhermesc 12-12-2012 13:04:27 24.248.193.103 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to Earl Gray, 12-12-2012 12:48:00   Ever compare the average weight of an American and the average weight of a German? Fat people have more health problems. The fact that the main disease of the poor in the America is obesity should give you a clue. Couple that with 30 million illegal Mexicans that like to shoot our fellow citizens and I'm surprised there is only two years difference.   [Reply]  [No Email]
cannonball 12-13-2012 04:42:29 75.88.12.210 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to dhermesc, 12-12-2012 13:04:27   A U. S. Navy destroyer stops four Mexicans in a row boat rowing towards California. The Captain gets on the loud-haler and shouts, "Ahoy, small craft. Where are you headed?" One of the Mexicans puts down his oar, stands up, and shouts, "We are invading the United States of America! to reclaim the territory taken by the USA during the 1800's." The entire crew of the destroyer doubled-over in laughter. When the Captain is finally able to catch his breath, he gets back on the loud-haler and asks, "Just the four of you?" The same Mexican stands up again and shouts, "No, we're the last four. The rest are already there!"   [Reply]  [No Email]
Ultradog MN 12-12-2012 11:15:18 184.100.109.75 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to Earl Gray, 12-12-2012 10:56:00   I really don't know what the wars and W have to do with this conversation unless it's just to disemble. Even if we still had all the money we've spent on the wars and military in the last ten years we still would have serious budget problems. This thread is about new ways the government is trying to get more money out of the people and ways people here can try to protect their assets. It isn't about laying blame on this party or that president as there is plenty of blame for all parties to take their share of it.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Mike (WA) 12-12-2012 10:33:45 69.10.199.107 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-12-2012 10:22:26   You got that last part right- your precious metals will silently pass to your heirs without any mention in probate or anywhere else. They can even back their cars into the garage to make the transfer, if nosy neighbors are a problem! LOL   [Reply]  [No Email]
Traditional Farmer 12-12-2012 10:38:42 67.233.70.253 Report to Moderator	Re: Death and Taxes. in reply to Mike (WA), 12-12-2012 10:33:45   They better a backhoe and metal detector(LOL)I'm gonna make 'um earn it.   [Reply]  [No Email]