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Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn)

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GeneMO

12-10-2012 21:46:44
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They have Roundup ready and BT varieties of sweet corn now.

Also some extra sweet varieties.

Gene




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MFPoor

12-11-2012 04:56:10
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to GeneMO, 12-10-2012 21:46:44  
The vast majority of consumers aren't influenced by the scare tactics of the anti-gmo crowd. They tried to make everyone believe people in California would rush out and vote for the gmo labeling in the last election. That's California....land of the out of control liberals....and the people voted no. The evidence is clear to those that take the time to see it....The anti GMO movement is just not as strong as some would like us to believe.

Truth is, people want SAFE low cost food. The FDA, USDA, CDC, and a number of very respected universities have determined you are statistically more likely to suffer from a food related illness as the result of organic grown products than from conventional or gmo products. Most of the overseas opposition to gmo's is going away as they learn the facts and quit listening to the doomsday prophets/conspiracy theorist's.

There is a market for organic grown foods, but there is a much bigger market for safe, reliable, lower cost products. To this date, NO ONE has ever been able to prove that gmo crops or roundup technology has any ill effects on humans. NONE....Just rumors, innuendo, and and unsubstantiated claims. But there are FACTS that show an inherent risk with the safety of organic crops.

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Traditional Farmer

12-11-2012 05:07:48
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to MFPoor, 12-11-2012 04:56:10  
Facts are GMOs have been proven to be a threat to health by independent studies in Europe of course the ones that say they are safe have been financied by the large Ag companies in the US.
At any rate you fellows living in the sticks have no idea what the majority of urban consumers want
and matters very little what the real effects are one way or the other if the consumers are willing to pay extra to get it."The Customer is King".I can sell all the organically grown produce I can grow at a premium price locally so what do I care if the Chinese slave workers prefer GMO/chemical grown foods? Guess its still better than baked rat and Poke Berry they usually eat(LOL).You fellows have your market I have mine.

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MFPoor

12-11-2012 05:17:29
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-11-2012 05:07:48  
"Us fellows living in the sticks"....Now there's a REAL laugher. (But, based on your failure to know facts before speaking, one we'll just toss in the garbage with the rest of your nonsense) And such is the majority of your rhetoric. For the record, the organic movement would benefit greatly by you NOT being their spokesman. You're making it a laughing stock with your increasingly ridiculous comments.

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Traditional Farmer

12-11-2012 05:38:09
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to MFPoor, 12-11-2012 05:17:29  
You have no idea what you're talking about as usual and no idea that organics is not a 'movement' for most people they're just people that want decent healthy food and they're not getting it from mainstream agriculture.Of course I don't expect you or brainwashed folks like you to care heck if Monsanto and the USDA put out a press release that cowpiles were good to eat on sandwiches you'd head to the pasture field with a loaf of bread and a jar of Miracle Whip(LOL)

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MFPoor

12-11-2012 05:43:34
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-11-2012 05:38:09  
So on with your personal insults....Typical. You MIGHT want to consider not everyone is gullible enough to believe the claims of an "organic farmer" who isn't by definition, an organic farmer. Just someone who is profiting from false and misleading claims.



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MFPoor

12-11-2012 05:11:04
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to Traditional Farmer, 12-11-2012 05:07:48  
And now we hear from the rumor mongering crowd! Again, NO ONE has EVER presented FACTS showing what you claim, however, there are plenty of proven FACTS that show the much higher risk involved with organic. I'd expect you to defend your way of life, but try to do so with REAL facts, and not the kind that you make up as you go along. But then again, unless you use those "home made facts", you have no leg to stand on.

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MFPoor

12-11-2012 05:05:02
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to MFPoor, 12-11-2012 04:56:10  
Just one of many reports with science based facts rather than rumor based opinion



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MFPoor

12-11-2012 05:07:57
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to MFPoor, 12-11-2012 05:05:02  
More unbiased reading



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Pitch

12-11-2012 05:30:07
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to MFPoor, 12-11-2012 05:07:57  
Not for nothin but. MFPoor,I followed your link and then traced your article to the Hudson institute. I am not going to take sides here,I eat GMO food every day,but your link does not seem to be ubiased. The studies referred to wer conducted under the auspices of the Hudson Institute. Major funding from the institute come from:
Eli-Lily
Monsato
Dupont
Dow-Elanco
Sandoz
Ciba=Gigy
Conagra
Cargill
Procter&Gamble
Hardly an unbiased group when it come to control of the worlds food supply

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bobbyboywestcentIN

12-11-2012 11:50:19
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to Pitch, 12-11-2012 05:30:07  
don't waste your time on mfpoor with facts. he is a union hating, corporate choir boy with what seems to be no ties to family farmings glory days. i think he longs to be a bto. most bto's have to be bto's because they are generally low skilled farmers that need lots of acres to collect welfare on so they can survive off the 10 dollars an acre they make. granted, the last 5 yrs or so, even bad farmers have done well with the record prices we have.

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MF Poor

12-11-2012 13:31:53
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to bobbyboywestcentIN, 12-11-2012 11:50:19  
HA! Oh junior....Mommy will be upset that you're out of the playpen and on her computer again. I'll say this about you. When you go to prove to the world what a moron you are, you do a fine job. I hope Santa brings you a clue for Christmas since you obviously don't have one.



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bobbyboywestcentIN

12-11-2012 14:29:38
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to MF Poor, 12-11-2012 13:31:53  
since you can't figure it out on your own, i'll tell you that my name really isn't bobby and i'm not really a boy. just a goofy handle i came up with. now please proceed with using your favorite comeback to other posts, calling folks morons.



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MF Poor

12-11-2012 15:44:29
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to bobbyboywestcentIN, 12-11-2012 14:29:38  
I couldn't possibly care any less what your name is, or what species you are. From your whiney little junenile mouth, you might just be a little girl. Who cares. And I call a spade a spade and a moron a moron. Since the latter fits you like a glove, we'll go with that.



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bobbyboywestcentIN

12-11-2012 13:06:29
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to bobbyboywestcentIN, 12-11-2012 11:50:19  
and if not because of low skills, it's because of massive egos, competetive attitudes and greed.



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MF Poor

12-11-2012 13:33:30
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to bobbyboywestcentIN, 12-11-2012 13:06:29  
So you've been stomped into a mud puddle by more successful farmers....No need to blame it on them. Put the blame where it belongs...On your parents and poor genetics.



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bobbyboywestcentIN

12-11-2012 14:20:26
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to MF Poor, 12-11-2012 13:33:30  
you have no clue how successful i haven't been. and success, as defined by you and your ilk, is miles from how i define it. now let's hear some more of your childish insults that you so often blame others for using.



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MF Poor

12-11-2012 15:49:15
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to bobbyboywestcentIN, 12-11-2012 14:20:26  
Who gives a rats behind how you define success. From all indications that's any day when you don't dump a load in your drawers. I should be ashamed of myself though....making fun of a mentally challenged 2 year old and all.

And for whatever it's worth, I recognise your ISP addy and know who you normally pretend to be. That alter ego is a looser too.



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bobbyboywestcentIN

12-11-2012 16:45:59
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to MF Poor, 12-11-2012 15:49:15  
poopy jokes are always funny. thanks! and i would guess it's not worth much because i've always been bobbyboy ever since i dove into a climate change thread on here bout a yr or 2 ago, and was pounded on no less. lol. back in 06 or so i poked around the oliver board asking a question or 2 under some handle i don't recall. so i have no idea how you can say that, i'm not computer savvy though.



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MF Poor

12-11-2012 17:30:04
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to bobbyboywestcentIN, 12-11-2012 16:45:59  
So....Gonna go with the "play stupid" defense? No argument from me on that.



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bobbyboywestcentIN

12-11-2012 17:51:09
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to MF Poor, 12-11-2012 17:30:04  
i'm not playing stupid, it's for real. i've no idea how to refute your goofy allegations.



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MF Poor

12-11-2012 18:06:43
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to bobbyboywestcentIN, 12-11-2012 17:51:09  
Well, at least you're honest. And over matched.



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MFPoor

12-11-2012 05:39:21
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to Pitch, 12-11-2012 05:30:07  
Funding from yes, but show where there's ANY evidence of misleading information or false claims....In a word, NOT.

And the studies conducted by CDC, USDA, ect, weren't funded by any private money.



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MFPoor

12-11-2012 05:36:47
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to Pitch, 12-11-2012 05:30:07  
How about one from a REAL organic farmer, who exposes the TRUTH about false and misleading marketing in the organic business. It's pretty much a scam designed to entice people who easily fall victim to scare tactics.

And then there's the FACT that the CDC, AMA, USDA, and a growing list of unbiased groups ALL come to the exact same conclusion....

And then you get people like Traditional Farmer, who CLAIM to be organic, but fail to comply with certification requirements. (which makes them non organic, but fraudulently profiting from such by claiming they are)

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MFPoor

12-11-2012 05:25:30
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to MFPoor, 12-11-2012 05:07:57  
Simple, logical, and based on REAL science rather than scare tactics and rumor based marketing



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Traditional Farmer

12-11-2012 04:23:41
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to GeneMO, 12-10-2012 21:46:44  
Almost all the people that buy at farmers markets are there to avoid GMOs and chemically grown food once its known a seller has these they won't be able to sell their produce.



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cannonball

12-11-2012 03:45:11
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 Re: Farmers market type questions (Tomatoes and Sweet corn) in reply to GeneMO, 12-10-2012 21:46:44  
you can keep your roundup ready corn all for yourself..



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