Loader tractor

Bob seND

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Looking for a 70-90 horse gas tractor, could be used on loader in winter, baler, drill, planter in summer.
Prefer 1655 oliver, but considering 1650 Oliver, 1800 Oliver, 7700 Ford. I'm interested in comments and recommendations about the above or other tractors similar in size. I"d also be interested in recommendations for a relatively light-weight, but quick-tach loader for the above.
 
I'm not positive but I think an Oliver 1800 only has power assist and not full power steering. I know someone with an 1800 and I think they said it's harder to steer when stopped. Not sure about about the 1650 or 1655. A 7700 Ford is quite a bit newer.
 
I have never owned one but from what I know you will never go wrong with a 1655 Oliver. My father inlaw farmed with one for many years and took real good care of it and never had one bit of trouble with it. His was a gas and he did all his heavy tillage with it. Also my friend on a dairy farm had a gas 1655 and used it hard and rough and he also had excellent luck with his. He did have a problem with the carb. once and I went threw it and he never had any more trouble. Oh and I replaced a bent valve on it once and had the head done for him. but that was miner as he had about a million hard hours on that thing. Find a 1655 Oliver and you will be getting one of the best tractors ever built bar none.
 
I have a gas 4020 Deere powershift with a 3100 DuAl loader. NOT pretty or late model, or high-tech, but it can really make stuff happen!
 
Hi
I Don't think there was any 7700 fords with a gas motor 7000 might be the last.
With the rises in gas prices in the last few years I would spend a bit extra if you could on a diesel.
It won't take long to get the money back on fuel savings if gas hits $3.50 or $4 a gallon or more again.
My diesel Major uses 2 and a bit tanks of fuel a year cutting grass.
My gas major uses half a tank getting hot and off choke and driving round the yard.
Also you might have more chance of selling a diesel if you ever needed to. I think the gas tractor market is dropping pretty fast because of running costs.
Regards Robert
 
my 1655 is a handy unit it has a farmhand loader and does all i ask of it I only wish the tires were in better shape
 
4020 gas w/46A JD loader; 5 minutes or less to remove/install loader. Loader is somewhat lighter than others of the era, but will easily handle 1500-2000# bales, etc.
 
I have a 72 1655 diesel with Westendorf TA-26 loader that is the handiest tractor I own. Big enough to do most jobs around the farm and small enough to get in there.
 
I have a 6610 Ford with Westendorf TA26 loader. It will outlift and outmanuver the 4020 with a loader on it.
 
I gather from the name you are in North Dakota, and I guess that really makes a difference. To even think about a 20 year old OLIVER in this part of the country would be fatal. Folks shy away from them because I guess there was just never that many sold in this part of the country.
We just don,t se many loaders on 2 wheel tractors. Market is pretty well moved to 4 wheel tractors when a loader is mounted. Good luck with your oliver. O If I see one lurking around I will give you a tick they can be bought for near nothing when they do show up in this part of the country.
 
Zippo Gasser would light right off, every time, first try. The guy lives in North Dakota and he wants a loader tractor he can use every day in winter. The only way to do that reliably with a diesel is to let it run all winter, which is what the germans did on the eastern front in WWII (The Big One). They let their engines run from November thru March.
 
7700 Ford would be a good choice, but it was only available as a diesel. Same with the 7000 that someone else mentioned. The 5000 and 6600 were the biggest gassers Ford offered, at 67 h.p. (late 5000...earlier ones with the smaller engine were 57 h.p.) and 70 h.p., respectively.
I have a Westendorf TA26 on my Ford 4600, and it's great. Would easily fit a 5000/6600.
I have a project 5000 that I'm swapping a gas engine into...but I'm in n/w WI, and probably too far away...
 
I've got a Dunham/Du-al on a 1600 gas. Couldn't imagine a better loader tractor for everyday use feeding cattle. I traded a 3010 with an International 2001 loader even money for it 12 years ago. Been doing the happy dance every since.
1650-1655,you'll never,ever be sorry.Best Oliver models ever made for any job,especially as a loader tractor. Full frame,so when you take the clutch out,and you will eventually with any loader tractor,you won't have to split the tractor to change it. The HydraPower is super nice for changing speed when loading,weight and traction couldn't be better.
 
Found this in the Fastline, Ohio edition. Oliver 1850, Gas, Nice $3,850 at Mt, Vernon Tractor and Equipment 425 Columbus Ave. My. Vernon, Ohio (740) 392-3633. Apears to be a New holland dealer. Also this Oliver but missing one requirement as it is not gas. 1966 Oliver 1650, Dsl. Hydra Power, 3 pt., PTO. Recent paint and seat, front weights, very clean $6,250. Picture looks good. Rudolph Brothers, Yankeetown Rd., Boonville, In. email; [email protected]
www.rudolphbrosinc.com
(812)897-1720
Don't know anything else about these dealers except the ad in the Ohio Fastline edition 13 for 2012
 
Fellow down the road has an early 1800.This tractor has no Power Steering at all.Just plain old MANUAL steering,just like my SM.BTW,that tractor has been running on 4 1/2 to 5 cylinders for 15 years,has zero oil pressure,a 'cloud' follows it wherever it goes.The 'high' side of the transmission has been blocked off for 10 years.Olivers are TOUGH tractors!!
 
(quoted from post at 07:16:21 11/30/12) The guy lives in North Dakota and he wants a loader tractor he can use every day in winter. The only way to do that reliably with a diesel is to let it run all winter...

Don't tell anybody around here that you can't use a diesel tractor in the winter. I use a diesel tractor/truck/skidsteer/other misc equipment everyday in the winter and don't feel the need to leave it running for 6 months. When properly maintained and preheated they have all started when asked even at -50*.....

And heck it might be cheaper to leave the diesel running all winter compared to using a gasser tractor for any type of heavy work. hahaha
 
The recommendation was for a JD4020. Have you checked prices on 4020s? Gas and diesel? You can buy a lot of gas with the money you'll save buying a gasser over a diesel and no need to monkey with pre-heating. I've been farming in weather as bad and as cold as it gets for the last seventy years and I could probably provide everyone with a few cold weather tips so just calm down. (;>))
 
Like this.
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There were 3 series of 1800s. I believe only the "A" series had shaft type steering. The B and C series would have been hydrostatic power steering. I wouldn't recomend the A series for a loader tractor. The steering,plus the fact that on those early ones,you had to take the top off the tractor to adjust the hydrulic pressure. All the rest could be done externally.
 
Those guys stack around 1000-1500 bales a year with this-it's only use.In fact they even WELDED the hitchpin in place.BTW,these guys are mechanics(damn good ones at that),they own a towing business.
 
I would check "tractorhouse".. they have quite a few 1550,1555, 1650 & 1655 listed in SD, WI, Mn... most with loaders.. some rather nice looking machines. I'd seriously consider a diesel though... those old Oliver diesels are sure smooth engines and last for many hours.
 
I would be looking for a diesel in a tractor that size. You can always add a in-line heater if your worried about the cold weather starts.
The JD will be more money than the ford or oliver.
 
I live in Manitoba Canada thats a place a little more north of North Dakota for those that believe the world stops at the 49th parallel L.O.L. It hits 40 oc below up here. we only run diesels here on our farm. Like I Said with my gas tractor in my collection it uses twice or more than the same tractor with diesel.
we plug our diesels in and warm them up 2 hours before we need it with a timer in the morning. Go do chores and as long as we don't leave them shut off for 2 or 3 hours outside while doing chores they usually start or if its at the barn for half a day not running plug it in so it starts to go home again. The electric is a lot cheaper than the gas and then have a good useful tractor, That's worth something if needed.
Regards Robert
 

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