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Re: Starting a Food Plot

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JD Seller

11-28-2012 01:23:57
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I don't know why guys want to disk first then plow. The loose dirt makes the plows work like crap. The coulters can't cut the trash in the soft dirt and the guy blames the plow.

Mow your weeds down. THEN plow the ground. If you not going to plant until spring then plow it this fall and leave it alone until spring and then disk it and plant. Just about any plow job in the fall will be better than soring plowing.

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Billy NY

11-28-2012 07:39:10
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 Re: Starting a Food Plot in reply to JD Seller, 11-28-2012 01:23:57  
Funny you said that, I've always done it that way, cut grass/weeds, one field has a lot of glacial till round rock, so I cut higher, but no different from crop stubble. It sure seems to help with trash coverage and the coulters slicing in an inch or so seems to help with root bound soil after its been cut with a rotary mower.

I am no expert on tillage practices, but certainly have been around it enough, + my own trials/tribulations with an old tractor, 1 worn out, coulter missing ferguson and my later 2 ford plows, once thing is for sure, if you can set the plow to do a good job of turning the sod or root bound soil completely over, in the fall, it appears that in the conditions here, erosion is no issue, unless you are on a steep hillside, drainage can be better, whats under seems to die off completely, and in the spring, you have a head start on weeds. I also find, that contrary to crop planting, a thicker more dense population of forage ie; whitetail institute or any like product, as well as say oats, does seem to help shade out the weeds. Optimum PH, and fertilizer to help the thicker population can work, weather also can change things just the same. No guarantee you wont have to spray for weeds, but I've gotten good results at times, one patch of clover came in nice, hardly any weeds.

Its really kind of an enjoyable hobby for me, going around to all the little patches I have cut out of young woods in old fields and the one field that has been planted in crops since before I was around.

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jackinok

11-28-2012 07:17:23
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 Re: Starting a Food Plot in reply to JD Seller, 11-28-2012 01:23:57  
it really depends on when you plow,if i am leaving it over the winter,i just plow.if i am starting in spring i disc, plow ,disc. the reasoning behind this is simple. by discing first ,as you say it loossens the soil on top. when you turn this under it leaves less air spaces,and gives a better contact with the subsoil to aid in pulling up moisture.discing afterwards of course closes the remaining air spaces,and leaves you with a compact seedbed,breaks up clods ,levels and all the rest.of course in sand or something it probably wouldnt make much difference,but thats the theory behind it. lately ive started using a disc plow more than a moldboard. it breaks my soil up better much like a disc,but leaves more trash on top to help stop the wind erosion some. of course if it doesnt break loose and rain soon nothing will help.i sure am glad ive got most of mine planted back to grass,out of the 2000 i was farming once i have about 20 acres left to plant and i'll be done farming. i planted it in oats and ryegrass in the only rain weve had in 4 months,a whole whopping .2 inches.

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