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G1355

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Anyone exited for the new 2013 dodge ram trucks to come out. They have the 1500 on there website 395hp and 25mpg best fuel economy for a truck, even better than fords ecoboost. The 2500s and bigger aren't on yet but there coming soon. Here's a picture of the 2013 powerwagon that was unleashed at the Texas state fair, one mean looking truck. Don't know how there new diesels will be with the def fluid, should be fine they run the cummins, best diesel truck made. But there not gonna make the powerwagon a diesel doesn't hurt my feelings any the hemi is pretty mean. And the bottom is the 2013 1500
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I can't understand why they are just calling them Ram and not using the Dodge name. Doesn't matter to me though. If I could buy a new truck it would have a blue oval.
 
(quoted from post at 19:33:00 11/19/12) I can't imagine why anyone would buy a vehicle from Government Motors or from Fiat.

But then again, to each his own.

Tom in TN
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2 things bother me about the Dodge/Fiat HEMI trucks, one being that's it's a Fiat. The other is everyone I know who has one complains about mileage and power when trying to pull anything.

Rick
 
I don't know why people say there fiats because there not if they were a fiat they wouldn't have a hemi in them
 
Well the have plenty of power gas or diesel, the hemi has 395
hp and the cummins 350, the have the most power for the gas
not the diesel but whenever I go to stock truck pulls in the
diesel class 9 out of ten times the cummins wins and for
mileage is all how you derive it I can get 15 with a 2500 hemi
all the time just can't keep your foot in it all the time
 
They're made principally to kill people and break things. Fortunately, most of the things they break are themselves, before they kill very many people. As the fat old man used to say: "And that's the way it is."
 
There still a dodge, they say ram but on the 2012 book they
had dodge wrote in it and in the new trucks they say dodge
inside to, ram is just a branch of Chrysler like jeep and dodge.

There's the inside of the new 2013, still says dodge
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Who needs one?

As long as my '89 Chevy does everything that's asked of it, my money is a whole lot happier invested in something that MAKES money instead of losing 50% of it's value in a couple of years.
 
If you keep trading them off every other year you don't lose much money especially if your trading for the same body style, trucks hold money a lot better than cars
 
Ya funny, what does the ford have over the dodge, pretty sad when fords new 6.2 only makes 385hp and dodges 5.7 hemi makes 395hp, and the fords a bigger motor.... Maybe that's what your laughing at
 
Ya guys like me only buy the best, I'd take the Chevy over the ford any day, but the dodge comes first
 
Hahahahahaha, I'd say my 99 dodge Dakota is a better built truck than that pos! Hahahah! I have a 2000 ford diesel, so can't compare to that.
 
What with a 7.3.... The 5.9 or 6.7 would eat the powerjoke for lunch, the cummins is the best motor face facts if it wasn't they wouldn't run it in tractors and semis, if the power jokes were so great why aren't they in semis or tractors? And that new powerwagon is one mean looking truck and everyone knows it they won't admit it but they know it
 
Chevy used to be the best, but now ford is by me, i have 3 80s Chevys, when they actually made trucks, in 2004 went to ford. But if your looking for a tinker toy than dodge or chevy will fit your needs, I work my truck, 5 days a week pulling a trailer and a load of ?!!)in the box..
 
My 2000 f 250 power joker has 184000 miles on it, runs like new, never did a thing to it, other that alternator, water pump, and 2 ball joints, as I said my truck works, so post hear the shape of you ram car in 12 years!
 
It's a truck, and I will when the fords rotted out and the dodge is still new, and 184,000 miles isn't that many we have a Chevy with over 220000 and has had a fuel pump and exhaust gaskets, a d never had anything else done, for our dodges we keep trading them off every 4 years
 
(quoted from post at 07:05:24 11/20/12) Anyone exited for the new 2013 dodge ram trucks to come out. They have the 1500 on there website 395hp and 25mpg best fuel economy for a truck, even better than fords ecoboost. The 2500s and bigger aren't on yet but there coming soon. Here's a picture of the 2013 powerwagon that was unleashed at the Texas state fair, one mean looking truck. Don't know how there new diesels will be with the def fluid, should be fine they run the cummins, best diesel truck made. But there not gonna make the powerwagon a diesel doesn't hurt my feelings any the hemi is pretty mean. And the bottom is the 2013 1500
i hate to burst your bubble but i just is built a 2113 1500 on their web site and this is what i found out, the 4x4 hemi rated 13city and 19hwy, to get 25mpg you have to opt for the 3.6 v-6 at a $1000.00 cost over the hemi and is rated to carry about 1400 payload and tow 5600lbs, both are less than half what the f150 ecoboost is rated, oh and that ram has to be a 4x2 to get the 25mpg rating. chuck
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And you still didn't answer my question.... What does the ford have over the dodge.... I'd like to know what ford has, my point of view don't see anything to great
 
Front ends for one thing, at least on a f250, dodge, chevy use independent front axles no, like my Dakota has. All my TRUCKS, 73, 84, 89 chevy 1/2,3/4 and 1 ton have soid front axle housing on the 4wds. As well as my 2000 f250.
 
Front ends for one thing, at least on a f250, dodge, chevy use independent front axles no, like my Dakota has. All my TRUCKS, 73, 84, 89 chevy 1/2,3/4 and 1 ton have soid front axle housing on the 4wds. As well as my 2000 f250.
 
Well I haven't went and looked on there website rather than
pictures, but they've been advertising it on the t.v. Best in class
fuel economy, either way the hemi puts out more than the ford,
and to top it off you don't get the 1500 to pull, and if you think
you do wait tell 2014 when they have the cummins in the 1500
and then let's talk, if you wanna talk about payload and towing
lets talk 2500s or 3500s
 
And I did say I seen that on there website, but they advertise it
on t.v. To either way dodge is a better built truck than ford.
Lets face facts guys
 
That's pretty neat.

I'll have to consider one if my '81 Chevrolet 1 ton happens to wear out at some point. It only does everything I need a pickup to do and not much else.
 
No we trade them off to keep them new, and everybody around our area gave up on the fords for snowplow trucks, they say the front axles aren't built heavy enough, and you say that's there strong point lol.... Most of the people got Cherie's but there's quiet a few dodges around to
 
Thanks, everyone else likes to say there junk. But there just jealous ford and Chevy can't build anything that's looks that neat and will hold up. Thanks
 
If you want a front end then the powerwagons what you need that's just a beefed up 2500 with some extras
 
(quoted from post at 09:04:58 11/20/12) Well I haven't went and looked on there website rather than
pictures, but they've been advertising it on the t.v. Best in class
fuel economy, either way the hemi puts out more than the ford,
and to top it off you don't get the 1500 to pull, and if you think
you do wait tell 2014 when they have the cummins in the 1500
and then let's talk, if you wanna talk about payload and towing
lets talk 2500s or 3500s
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fords big v8 puts out 411hp and 434lbft torque, 5.7 395hp and 407 torque, heck the 3.5 ecoboost makes 420 lbft. torque. torque is what moves you, chuck
 
The cummins is a good motor,thats why ford owns 51% of cummins as far as the dodges most of them have bad rust issues and ball joints and they have weak trannys.Look at the resale value of a dodge that should tell you something and the whole hemi thing is sso over rated it aint funny.
 
Car and driver says the hemi has 450 ft. Lb of torque, and the
6.2 in the f250 has 385 hp the raptor has 411 peak hp, which
there cheating it isn't gross horsepower like the hemis 395
 
Car and driver says the hemi has 450 ft. Lb of torque, and the
6.2 in the f250 has 385 hp the raptor has 411 peak hp, which
there cheating it isn't gross horsepower like the hemis 395
 
There new 6 speed tranny has no problems and for rust issues, it's because from 2003-2009 they didn't put rubber under the wheel wells they have that problem fixed now. They learn from there mistakes
 
(quoted from post at 23:52:01 11/19/12) What does the ford have over the dodge....
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When Dodge was Dodge, that's all I bought.
Since the bail out I'm still paying on Dodge's I don't own.
Can't see giving them any more money.
 
And resale? They hold together as good as anyone, look at fords resale, I'm not a huge Chevy guy but there's is the best, fords are worse than anybody for resale, and there the cheapest truck to
 
Paying for dodges you don't own. Well your gonna pay taxes
either way, there a necessary evil
 
LOL now thats funny...jelous..... :lol: :lol: :lol: Of what? I know of 2, yes 2 multi brand dealers in the last few years that did not get cut off as some did a Dodge dealers but they dumped Dodge because of warrenty issues and Chrysler's unwillingness to fix things right.

Got a question for you. At what RPMs does it make it's HP and Torque? I took a quick look on thier site and didn't see that info.

When I was working as a mechanic 1/2 of all pickups we worked on were Dodge. At the time Dodge ownership in our area for pickups was about 20%. That means that 20% gave up 50% of our pickup repairs. Sorry, will not own one. SO why would I be jealous of something I don't care for? I give Fiat about 5 years to run em into the ground.

Rick
 
I'm seeing a lot of bravado and chest thumping out of you, but not a lot of substance. I work in logging, and see all sorts of crap. I've rescued Dodges and Chevys with my Ford, I've been rescued by Dodges and Chevys. It all works out in the wash. Personally, my big Ford has treated me good. when I bought my last truck, I tried a couple different dealerships. The Dodge dealer didn't even try. The Ford dealer really went the extra mile to earn my business. That makes the biggest difference to me.

And if you want to sling mud at me too, a good buddy of mine is a mechanic at the local Dodge dealership; he still won't drive a Ram. Sticking with Chevy.

Don't get me started on Cummins. I still have a mile-wide grudge against them.
 
Seems like a darn expensive pick up to me. I know a guy who bought a quad cab Rumble Bee a couple years ago for $70,000+. It didn't even come with true mag wheels! He cursed it every time he washed it. Any dirt behind the plastic chrome covers would run out onto the wheels. Just because you like the Dodge doesn't make it the best truck. Who ever said torque gives speed is wrong. HP gives speed and torque gives pulling power. That's why the old 300 six Ford was such a good engine and diesels are good for pulling. Mileage figures are almost impossible to compare because they aren't based on real world driving.
 
Good on paper, wonder if the tv ads will say "you can get 800 miles on a tank of fuel".

let's not mention the size of tank and spoil a good story.
 
Company I work for has dozens of 3/4-ton pick ups. We have Fords, Chevy's (and GMC) and Dodges. Ford and Chevy get replaced every 2 or 3 years. Dodges get replaced when needed. The one I'm currently driving is 9 years old and is in far better condition than the 1 or 2 year old Chevy/Fords. We've got gas and diesel in each brand. The one I drive is a hemi/auto/4wd/qc/long bed. Routinely pulls a 12,000 gooseneck. Never had an issue, never did notice any lack of power. My personal truck is an '04 Dodge equipped similar to my work truck. 295,000 miles and still going strong. Love it. Wife's truck WAS an '09 Chevy. We about had to give it away when we traded it in on a '11 Dodge diesel. Son had a PowerJoke Ford. Same as Chevy, we almost gave it away when it had 175,000 miles. He drives a Dodge now. Happy aa a clam with it.

All ya dORF and Shivvy fans can have 'em. I've had more'n enough of 'em. Don't want 'em junking up my driveway.
 
Getting so you see more and more of these over priced "grocery getters". Most of them have never seen anything in their undersized box. Nothing more than macho status symbols.
 
Front ends. Front ends! Yay! Ford! The best front ends. Boo! Dodge! Dodge has never really taken care of their ongoing "front end" issue.
 
Bingo!

Would love a new Ford F-250 and will get one when I hit the lottery. But, in the meantime, my 2002 Silverado 2500 HD keeps on tickin'!
 
Bottom line---where the real tough work is being done, you'll see Fords. Where the yuppies want to speed around town in their over-sized, over-priced
pickups, you'll see Dodges.
 
I got a good laugh out of the guys going on about how great the powerjokes are. You guys ever notice how many websites and businesses are devoted to putting the Cummins in almost everything? How many are putting the 'joke or the duralax in anything? Hmmm, none......
 
Yup.

I've owned everything but a Ford (no particular reason, just the way it worked out) and they're all about the same.

With the exception of an '01 Dakota, never owned anything but a basic work truck with rubber floor mats and manual winders. If I need a truck, I need a T R U C K, not a Cowboy Cadillac Glorified Grocery Getter.

Every one of them was bought to tow, plow and lug, got horrible gas mileage, cost money to maintain properly...and did exactly what I bought them to do.

But then, I was never much on spending money for appearance sake or keeping up with the Joneses. Also, due to my lifestyle and gas prices, never put many miles on one.

I suppose if I were going to put 15,000 a year on a truck, creature comforts would be more important to me.
 
I need a fifty-thousand-something dollar FIAT truck with Dodge painted on it like a new hole in my head.
Technically, Dodge was not just baled out -it was sold 100% to Fiat of Italy.
 
Well hate to tell you ram is owned by Chrysler. Has nothing to do with fiat. Look it up ram is a trademark of Chrysler motor corp.
 
Thanks that's what I was saying. The cummins is the best motor and that's a fact. If it wasn't the wouldn't run them in semis, dozers, excavators, tractors and more
 
Thanks at least you have experience unlike all the others who like to blow about the pos fords and Cherie's they have
 
Well there predicted to be the number one selling truck in
three years, and you guys like to blow, you guys make them
sound like there junk, we bought a new f250 in 2003 that came
factory without a head gasket, and warentee didn't fix it then
we got dodge
 
At one time, Ford owned a small percentage. They have long sold that stock. What you are saying is a myth that just won't die. Do some research.
 
The Italians showed them how to make a decent headliner but the transmissions still fail at 30K on a regular basis.
 
Fords are some horribly front ends too, some of the loosest steering ball joint eating things I've ever seen.
 
(quoted from post at 06:36:43 11/20/12) Well hate to tell you ram is owned by Chrysler. Has nothing to do with fiat. Look it up ram is a trademark of Chrysler motor corp.
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And Chrysler is owned by who????? [b:42e5ad9e2b]Fiat[/b:42e5ad9e2b]!

So that means Ram is owned by.....you guessed it....[b:42e5ad9e2b]FIAT[/b:42e5ad9e2b]!

LOL

Rick
 
As much as people rag on them, tell me how many people you know that actually broke something on a chevy front end. Not counting a truck pull, which is really because people don't weight down the front of their truck or make the front end sag and when the suspension is fully extended it puts the tie rods at bad angles.
 
This just HAS to be the all time record in stupid...
Look at the pretty photo & brag on how good a truck it is? Must be why we have 4 ft. beds lots of plastic & Tv ads showing MANLY MEN driving in 2 in. of mud.
Poof me & the h3ll with it
 
(quoted from post at 07:45:19 11/20/12) how many 5.9 and 6.7's do you see in semi trucks?
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Thank you, I was going to ask that same thing, what else used those engine from the factory.

Wounder just how long before Fiat dumps the Cummins in favor of the Iveco (spell??) that they also own.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 15:07:27 11/20/12) For the guy the finances his manhood at a car dealership.
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hat is pretty close. Little G1335 uses "looks", "mean", a lot, so "stylin", & "macho grocery getter" belong to him too.
"If Fiat , then it wouldn't be a 'Hemi'. How wet behind the ears are you? Fiat had engines with hemispherical combustion chambers before you were born. And those were real hemispherical chambers, too. The current, so called "Hemi" is called that because it IS NOT a hemispherical chamber at all, "hemi" is nothing but a registered trademarked marketing tool that sucks in the 'would be macho man' , just like "Ram" is a registered trademark. Registered to Chrysler. FIAT owns Chrysler & thus owns Ram.
The 426 CU IN engines of yesteryear were real hemispherical combustion chamber (half a grapefruit) engines with widely splayed valves (58.5 degrees), open chamber for good cross flow breathing. Today's "Semi-Hemi", or "HINO" (hemi in name only), has a chamber that is no where near hemispherical and narrow angle (34 degrees) valve arrangement, because without the "bathtub" combustion chamber it would not be able to meet current emissions standards. Even with that non-hemi chamber, it still needs another crutch to squeak by emissions, two plugs per cylinder! Why does it look so puny compared to the 426? The narrow valve angle is the answer. Cummins is really all that ever got them back into the truck market & the transmission & front end & tinny body manages to skate by because of someone else's diesel. Open the door, lift gently on door & watch the whole A-pillar bend/flex/move! P.S. expect the "HINO" to go away in the next round of emissions tightening. Oh, they may keep fooling some with the trademarked name by attaching it to some other design, but not the current engine. I'm sticking with my International....a real truck!
 
Well go to truck pulls they will out pull any other brand, there a
mans truck you are all ladies and just drive your fords, you
guys don't pull so what would any of you know,
 
(quoted from post at 05:28:31 11/20/12) Bottom line---where the real tough work is being done, you'll see Fords. Where the yuppies want to speed around town in their over-sized, over-priced
pickups, you'll see Dodges.
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Yep. When I see pickups covered with dirt and hauling trailers and equipment, usually a Ford or Chevy. When I see them being driven around town by rich teenagers all customized, clean and sparkly, it's a Dodge.
 
(quoted from post at 07:53:38 11/20/12)
(quoted from post at 15:07:27 11/20/12) For the guy the finances his manhood at a car dealership.
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hat is pretty close. Little G1335 uses "looks", "mean", a lot, so "stylin", & "macho grocery getter" belong to him too.
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LOL you sound like one of my daughter in laws! You should really hear her when she sees a truck that's lifted and has big tires on it :twisted: :twisted: !

I kinda laugh too in the fact that with 4X4 trucks and SUVs. They figure that 98% will never leave paved roads! Here it's really bad. Everyone and thier brother has some type of 4X4 so they can "go in the winter. We also have the "stupid law". If the county sheriff says no travel and you go out and get stuck they will come get you. You will pay for the DOT plow truck and driver to plow out to you, the wrecker and for the cop to drive out there and write you a ticket. Last time that happened here was a few years ago. Cost the guy near 3500 when it was all said and done. Yet most of the people around here who own 4X4 vehicles live in town. Living out here on the farm I would rather have a 4X2 cause I don't really need 4 wheel. Can't remember the last time I used 4X4. Conditions are so bad that I need 4X4 I fire up a tractor and use that instead.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 08:03:45 11/20/12) Well go to truck pulls they will out pull any other brand, there a
mans truck you are all ladies and just drive your fords, you
guys don't pull so what would any of you know,
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LOL a truck pull proves nothing except yer trying to prove yer man hood. Wanna prove to me yer a man......takes a lot more than a truck or tractor pull. Why don't you go back to playing with your hot wheels?

Rick
 
My father-in-law had a 90's model Ford with a 460 gasser in it. His boss had a 90's model Dodge equivalent. They each pulled enclosed trailers full of construction equipment and cabinets. Each trailer weighted +/- 15K loaded.

The ford would leave the dodge in the dust up inclines, not to mention straight and flat roads too. He had to slow down let the dodge get in front and bring the ford up the rear.
 
Sound advice to everyone engaging in this exchange with Mr. G1355: "Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".
 
(quoted from post at 08:01:37 11/20/12) 4ft box no 6ft 4 in. Long boxes are gay
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Aww widdle tirteen fitty five tinks a 6 foot box is a long box....

Long boxes are for WORK trucks. I have a 2000 extended cab F150 7700 farm pickup with a 6'6" box and wish often that it was an 8 footer. I only have it because I need to use it as a halfassed car for when I'm bringing along my wife and two kids. This pickup has pulled trailers across Iowa, down to Kentucky, to Kansas, all around Wisconsin and back. It's not had an easy life and it's still going strong at 170,000 miles. If it were a Dodge, it'd be on its second or third transmission.

If I get another pickup, I'll keep the F-150 for for light work and buy a late 90's F-250 or 350 regular cab with a "gay" long box for farm work.

You can keeping sucking your dodges. I used to work for an agronomy business that had all Dodges. They were complete junk. We had an 05ish manual trans 3500 diesel dually that dropped it's tranny ant 76000 miles. Salesman's half ton pickups were CONSTANTLY dropping automatic transmissions. the head salesman got a new Dodge in '08 that leaked rain into the cab through the dome light at 3000 miles. They finally started buying Fords in '09. The most die-hard Dodge fan immediately switched to an '09 Ford F-150.... Hmmm.

Dodge has made crap trucks for decades and I see no point in the future when they'll improve.
 
Yeah everybody picks on Dodge anymore because they are owned by Fiat. Last time I checked so is Case New Holland. Better go to Mother Deere for your next tractor too if you do not like Fiat. I guess if you want the most American built vehicle you would buy a Toyota or Honda not a Dodge, Chevy OR Ford. Remember its Fixed Or Repaired Daily. FORD.
 
Their V10 wasn't that good of engine. Better than their 360 in terms of power but still lacking when compared to the 460 and the 454.

Lots of cam and bearing issues - basically a 360 with two more pistons.
 
Bad transmissions? I never owned a Dodge truck but I've got a pair of Grand Caravans. One has 153,000 on it the other 108,000. Transmissions have not been touched other than new filters. If you redline a vehicle any transmission will go out even the almighty Chevys. One of my relatives has a 06 Silverado that has 20000 miles on it and it shifts rougher than any Dodge I've ever been around. Never towed anything either.
 
Well 2010 they made a new tranny haven't heard any bad
about it. And we got one runs just fine no problems
 
It proves what pulls I go to the stock truck pulls so nothing's
modified. You know nothing
 
Yes when I first read the details . . . the Federal government gave Chrysler to Fiat of Italy for zero dollars. Just a promise to keep it going for X amount of time. They might of changed a little as time went out but I'm no accounting wizard. Some source say Fiat wound up paying some token amount and some say they paid nothing. Regardless - the US taxpayer certainly paid.
 
I'm no Dodge fan even when it WAS an American company. That being said, I'm still using my 1969 Dodge PowerWagon as a farm truck. 318 V8 and 4.88 ratio axles. A crude tank that has outlasted many other trucks.

I also have a 1992 Dodge W250 with a Cummins intercooled diesel. Made in Mexico but has been a fantastic workhorse. I have never washed it once since I owned it. Has over 400K miles and runs like new. Still gets around 19 MPG when empty.

Granted my Ford diesel F-250 (made in Canada) rides like a Cadillac when compared to my Dodge. But the Dodge will outpull it and use less fuel doing the job.
 
Only about 4 on here know what there talking about all others
are city boys who have never pulled anything and think they
know what there talking about
 
(quoted from post at 12:56:57 11/20/12) Only about 4 on here know what there talking about all others
are city boys who have never pulled anything and think they
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It's interesting how you can come on a board and within 30days know this much about everyone here. Wow you are talented.
 
Thats a lot of truck to haul 2 bags of grocerys,I have a mowing bussiness and use a light 1/2 ton ford with a 4.2 it has 185000 miles on it,I also pull my 4000 lbs tractors to several shows.Ive never used a 6.5 bed in my life,and have never owned a extended cab.I grew up with the Idea that trucks were made to work.

jimmy
 
Not everyone is that lucky. My boss used to buy Caravans, the last one (and I mean the last one) was a 2005. It was his wife's car and was mostly driven on long trips (stay at home house wife). When it had 80K on the transmission failed. When he traded it at at 85K it was rusted through on both rear fenders (see a lot of them rusting in the same spots), it mooed like a cow when you turned the steering wheel (dealer couldn't fix unless he would approve several thousand dollars of repairs) and the dealer replaced transmission was leaking oil.

When I looked at minivans I didn't even consider Dodge.
 
85% of all Chevy trucks are still out on the road! The other 15% made it back home..... LOL.

Visit any dealer and the repair shop is usually busy, any brand.

I do favor my Dodge town truck, bumping 20 mpg when I drive nice. The old rusty Cummins truck does the work around here!
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Thanks I made this posting to see if anyone was looking forward to the new 2013 dodges, not for everyone to say how bad they where, the fords are the cheapest truck for a reason nuff said
 
A 2012 powerwagon with a hemi, 28ft gooseneck and anywhere from 5,000 pounds to a tractor and skid loader, 20,000 or 25000 pounds or a 375 bushel seed tender, always 10 miles a gallon or higher usually average about 11.5
 
Well sounds like you know what your talking about to the new ones ride nice compared to the old style, still don't ride like a chevy
 
Ya you don't want to make arguments like others, I posted to see if anyone was exited to see these things unleashed
 
And thanks for trying to say there pos a lot of people never drove one and just like to cities because they have no lives. Thanks for not arguing
 
My 2000 f250 7.3 4x4 8ft box reg cab ,auto,was $31,380, "the 7.3 was a$4600 option" new I still have window sticker. I bought it used in 04 for $20,000, with 80,000 miles on it,I put 104,000 miles on in to date, sits from December until April. I put a water pump on it and an alternator. Oil,filters, tires , batteries ect, and 2 ball joints. That's is, other than a hoist to make the box dump, so for a cheap truck, I think I did pretty good so far!
 
I'm lucky I guess, i will say my 99 Dakota, has 170,000 on it no tranny trouble, and I have towed a small trailer with it, keep my fingers crossed,!! Lol
 
Your not doing anymore then what we did with 1/2T Fords for 50 yrs.With 1Ts double -triple your wts.on short runs.You never said how many miles a year you run loaded.
 
(quoted from post at 21:59:44 11/20/12) My 2000 f250 7.3 4x4 8ft box reg cab ,auto,was $31,380, "the 7.3 was a$4600 option" new I still have window sticker. I bought it used in 04 for $20,000, with 80,000 miles on it,I put 104,000 miles on in to date, sits from December until April. I put a water pump on it and an alternator. Oil,filters, tires , batteries ect, and 2 ball joints. That's is, other than a hoist to make the box dump, so for a cheap truck, I think I did pretty good so far!
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But you ain't got no bling!!!!!!!!!
Jacked up, 22s, flames, dual stacks through the bed, big old "HEMI" logo and "Intimidator" across your rear window, cutting people off, tailgating, running them into the ditch, .................... :twisted:
 
Depends on the year, 35 to 50 thousand miles, and you don't pull 2 to 3 times what I do. What you haul 60 to 75 thousand pounds with a truck, maybe a semi
 
Ya they are. The only way you get a long box is if you have a two door. I've lived on the farm my whole life, cattle farming and every other thing your the city boy who needs a box when you have a trailer.
 
With 650 Bu.Fifth wheel and on short (under 20 mi.)400Bu.pup.We still have a few towing 2 400-450 gravitys with 3/4-1Ts,so add it up.
 
Well if you want to talk about pulling wagons we have two j and m 760s we've used the our 2006 dodge to pull those to the elevator, I thought you wanted to talk about trailers. Add that up. Can't pull them out of the field but you can pull them on the road with the truck, wagon brakes come in handy to
 
The 650(fifth wheel) and 400(tandem axle) are trailers and have pulled them out of fields together.As far as your excitment post Dodges don't fly very well around or even close around us.Ford sales 10 to 1,Chev-GMC maybe 5-6 to 1.
 
I've seen that DODGE on TV...guy has to unload his horses from a little old horse trailer to use them to pull his Dodge & little trailer out of a slick spot!!!!!!!!!!
On his driveway to the house no less. Wife's Prius just went in ahead of him, I bet. :(
 
(quoted from post at 10:56:57 11/20/12) Only about 4 on here know what there talking about all others
are city boys who have never pulled anything and think they
know what there talking about
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Could be but you aren't one of the four!
 
Well I'm pulling another 400 bushels than you, that's over 20000 pounds more, that's why I'm not pulling them out of the field and as of sales, I'd say there's more Chevy and fords around our area to but the only reason for it is there is a ford dealer 10 minutes a way and a Chevy dealer 15 minutes away, dodge dealer is 30 minutes away, if you only had a dodge dealer in your town there would be more dodges around. People usually buy something from local business's so there easy to get worked on and easy to trade off
 
(quoted from post at 16:18:28 11/20/12) Well I'm pulling another 400 bushels than you, that's over 20000 pounds more, that's why I'm not pulling them out of the field and as of sales, I'd say there's more Chevy and fords around our area to but the only reason for it is there is a ford dealer 10 minutes a way and a Chevy dealer 15 minutes away, dodge dealer is 30 minutes away, if you only had a dodge dealer in your town there would be more dodges around. People usually buy something from local business's so there easy to get worked on and easy to trade off
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Got one dealer of each brand where I live. Ford truck # 1 in sales,GM #2, Dodge/Ram #3.Car sales :GM1st,Ford 2nd and Dodge3rd.
Price:from lowest to highest- Dodge/Ram,GM and Ford.
 
I woundnt argue with you, fords are the cheapest that's why
everyone has one. That's the biggest reason why they sell, the
price, but that doesn't mean there the best
 
No they have a winch, unhook able sway bar disconnect, skid plates, it's their off road, rock climbing truck why do you think they make it
 
Unless I'm reading his post wrong it says from lowest to highest price, dodge= cheapest, gm, middle than ford= highest. I guess your mentality shows why you like dodge so much. Hey can't fix stupid, but what is really funny is your post that, hey these 2013s may be the next best truck! Lol. Santas coming down my chimney on dec 25th too! That'll never happen! Hahaha lol
 
Ya it is funny ford vehicles are cheaper than dodge or Chevy.. Go buy one and figure it out for yourself, very few on here know what there talking about, he's also a ford guy.
 

My 2000 f250 7.3 4x4 8ft box reg cab ,auto,was $31,380, "the 7.3 was a$4600 option" new I still have window sticker. I bought it used in 04 for $20,000, with 80,000 miles on it,I put 104,000 miles on in to date, sits from December until April. I put a water pump on it and an alternator. Oil,filters, tires , batteries ect, and 2 ball joints. That's is, other than a hoist to make the box dump, so for a cheap truck, I think I did pretty good so far!
 
I will stay on the minneapolis moline forum were people know what there talking about, if I want to talk about trucks i will go on a dodge forum were people know what there talking about there are a few that do on here but for the most part you guys are so smart I don't know why your on here you should all be millionaires as smart as you are. And the minneapolis moline forum doesn't have people that want to argue, I've figured out its the best forum on here rather than any other brand, they awnser questions and share a lot of info.
 
It's about time, good buy and good riddance, go there and don't come back! Let them deal with you.
 
Oh I get along with every one there instead of all you a holes who think you know everything but don't kno s***
 
G1355, just cause you got an Ertl farm set don't make you a farmer. And that's what you sound like is a darn kid with a farm set.

I farm, my newest tractor was made by IH not Fiat. If I were in the market for a new tractor it would be JD cause our local AGCO dealer is a joke. Not only am I farming (just starting up) I'm retired Army, 74-96, tanks. Now why don't you go back to playing with that farm set and leave us grown ups alone?

LOL I've worked as a mechanic for a few years after I retired turning wrenches for pay. Yet you want to claim that none of us know what we are talking about unless we agree with you. So you like the Rams and I don't. So what? Last time I looked me and a bunch of other people served so that I have the right not like Chrysler products for what ever reason we like.

Rick
 
"if I want to talk about trucks i will go on a dodge forum were people know what there talking about .." Good plan KID....all those dufuses will hug & agree with each other!!!! You will be insulated and right at home! Please stay there!
 
(quoted from post at 19:53:31 11/20/12) Here's my biggest ertl toy
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Stop taking pictures from yer dad's computer.....after your posts no one will believe yer old enough or big enough to reach the pedals.

Go back to yer Dodge forum.

Rmemeber that some people can learn from reading. And some can learn from watching. And G1355 has just got to pee on that fence..........

Rick
 
No, that's also a piece of junk, but feel free to post back after 32 years and over 11000 hours, like the FORD 4600 the farm I work on has, wish I could post a pic of it!
 
I said I'm staying on the minneapolis moline forum, and don't
believe me, talk about 15 year olds read your posts you guys
are really imature. You really need to grow up
 
(quoted from post at 20:20:32 11/20/12) I said I'm staying on the minneapolis moline forum, and don't
believe me, talk about 15 year olds read your posts you guys
are really imature. You really need to grow up
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Fellas,

Quit hurting widdle tirteen fiddy five's feelings. He's obviously a very sensitive little guy and can't take bullying....

Tirteen fiddy five, It's alright. Mommy's got a cup of warm milk and some fresh baked cookies waiting for you in the kitchen. then you can go back to your room and play with your radio controlled Ram you got for Christmas last year. :)
 
Ya a 350,000 dollar tractor is junk you are retardid also have a 2011 case four wheel drive but that's probebly junk to, whatever I have will be junk to you enough said

I could have the same thing as you and it would be junk.
 
Hate to bust your bubble, so was the 7.3. Next time you see an International powered bus or dump truck look for the "T444" or "T444e" badge on the hood...
 
What does Ford have? They didn't take any bail out money and they have the highest customer retention of any brand. If you want to face facts, here's a couple big ones...
 
I just like to see you whine, would you like some cheese with that wine, but really, will that $350 thousand dollar thing be here in 30 years??? I think not??? But if it is let us know. And should you be up this late? Does your mommy know what your up to????
 
I don't know what my moms doing nor do I live with her, when you farm a lot you need a tractor to get the job done, and why would you keep it 30 years? That would make no sence, they make new ones for a reason,
 
I can tell you now, you won't be keeping that one for 30 years. And new ones are for suckers like you., bend down and touch your toes. You only keep the good ones for 30 years, so go back to the mm board, and good luck.
 
I will they know what there talking about, those are the only ones you keep for ever, best tractors ever made
 
And your little ford tractor wouldn't do squat to get our farming done you'd have to run it 24/7 365 days a year and you still wouldn't get done
 
No it wouldn't do what you need it to do, but it does what it has to do Here for the last 30 years, like I said, post back in 30years about that tracked JD. Than I'llrespect you.
 
Ford 4600 what a joke, we drag the yard with a bigger tractor that wouldn't even run our auger. All it would be good for is a lawn ornament.
 
I will, won't be the same one though...we got an old 8970 John deere in the shed too we don't use much either, that's almost 20 years old and hasn't fell apart much on price from being new.
 
G1355, yer in JDsellers neck of the woods I see.


What's going on with you......mom and dad out and you alone with a baby sitter who's on the phone with her BF????? Or are you the hired guys kid just playing around?????

Go to bed it's way past yer bed time.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 00:58:02 11/21/12)we got an old 8970 John deere in the shed too we don't use much either, that's almost 20 years old and hasn't fell apart much on price from being new.
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More money than brains.
Your post was about Dodge trucks.
Now your posting upside down JD tractors.
I'm surprised Rick and some of the other guys have toyed with you this long.
All in good fun I guess. :)
 
We all have our preferences. I would not consider a Chevy or Ford minivan. Look at whats on the road. I'd bet 6 out of 10 are Dodge with the other four being 2 Hondas, 1 Toyota and 1 Kia. Nobody with any car sense would buy a Ford or Chevy minivan unless they drove Fords or Chevy their whole life and had a blind loyalty to that company. Fords are an electrical nightmare and the Chevys are expensive as he*l to fix. Dodge started building Caravans in 1983 so I think they know something about how to build them. Transmission failure at 80,000 to me would indicate it was defective from the factory or simply neglect. Minivans were never meant for towing anything. If you want to tow get a truck. You also run into people who wonder why their engines fail when they never change the oil. We've had 4 Caravans or Grand Caravans over the years and have had no transmission troubles with any of them. I'd probably have an Odyssey but they are twice as much to fix as the Dodge when they go down and used Odyssey prices are insane right now. I think someone mentioned above about Dodge front ends. That is a weak point but keep any vehicle long enough and see if you don't have to replace struts, ball joints, tie rods etc..
 
(quoted from post at 23:54:09 11/20/12) We all have our preferences. I would not consider a Chevy or Ford minivan. Look at whats on the road. I'd bet 6 out of 10 are Dodge with the other four being 2 Hondas, 1 Toyota and 1 Kia. Nobody with any car sense would buy a Ford or Chevy minivan unless they drove Fords or Chevy their whole life and had a blind loyalty to that company. Fords are an electrical nightmare and the Chevys are expensive as he*l to fix. Dodge started building Caravans in 1983 so I think they know something about how to build them. Transmission failure at 80,000 to me would indicate it was defective from the factory or simply neglect. Minivans were never meant for towing anything. If you want to tow get a truck. You also run into people who wonder why their engines fail when they never change the oil. We've had 4 Caravans or Grand Caravans over the years and have had no transmission troubles with any of them. I'd probably have an Odyssey but they are twice as much to fix as the Dodge when they go down and used Odyssey prices are insane right now. I think someone mentioned above about Dodge front ends. That is a weak point but keep any vehicle long enough and see if you don't have to replace struts, ball joints, tie rods etc..
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There were several years in there, if I remember right early to mid 90's, that it wasn't uncommon for the Chrysler mini van tranny to suffer catastrophic tranny failures around 80K. I replaced enough of them while working as a mechanic. They did fix that problem but it took years not months. The early Intrepid tranny were a nightmare too. Failure was common just over 100K. On those the tranny was rebuildable but only one place nation wide would do that. Where I worked at the time we would rebuild some auto trannies if it was cost effective for the customer. On those it wasn't and the only rebuilder nation wide was MOPAR. Reason being was that there were up to 28 changes to the tranny in one production year and the tranny had to be matched to the car via the VIN.

You are correct, drive any car or truck long enough you are going to replace parts in the front end. The Caravan is very popular because they were very innovative with built in child seats, seat storage under the floor....

Rick
 
I'm not seeing the powerjokes in dozers or excavators, semis, tractors, cummins is one of the best diesels made if not the best
 


And? It aint made by Chrysler. That's why it's such a good engine. Too bad the shipping container is junk IMO.....

Rick
 
But I'm done fooling with you. I'd tell you to go to bed but you don't have school the rest of the week.......I'm gone.......you can tell a #### anything you just can't tell em much.

Anyone every tell you it's better to keep yer mouth shut and let people think your a fool rather than open yer mouth and remove all doubt?

Rick
 
Seriously get over your self and that Cummins in the Dodge rusty coffee can. There is way more differences between the cummins in that Dodge and the ones in the over the road trucks. Let me guess you are one of the wanna be truckers that puts stacks on your Dodge Cummins. And further more if a Datsun pickup had a Cummins would it be the best pickup in the world?? Yeah thats what I thought, so get over it. And let me guess its daddys money that bought that 9RT too, kinda seems like you are the type that daddy made the money and you get to play with it. So get over it the engine is good and every thing around it and infront of it and behind it is junk in alot of peoples minds
 
Ya well I don't care what you think, and its a cummins in a
dodge not whatever you said it was, you guys have never
owned one so what would you know. Go play with the side
console on your 4020, because what you think I don't care it's
what I think, and sorry your jealous of my 9560rt
 
Ya your right all you guys should of kept your mouths shut, I
didn't ask for you ford or Chevy guys to comment. I asked if
anyone was looking forward to the new 2013 dodge rams.
Read it again never in there did I ask for opinions on them.
Read oliverbuckeyecollecters comments, he hit the nail on the
head every time
 
You can think what ever you want to If you would do your research the engine is a CDC. Thats Consolidated Diesel Corporation. I am not jealous of your 9560RT I prefer older tractors any way. Farming is not about how much money you have or how big of tractors you have to me its not a show off contest. You are a hired man for the bank. Not a Farmer
 
No I'm a farmer, and you think whatever you want it says
cummins on the side for a reason, you just like to keep
arguing, and when you farm a lot, your not gonna get it done
with a 4020 sorry. Have a happy thanksgiving I'm done
arguing with you,
 
(quoted from post at 02:44:30 11/22/12) No I'm a farmer, and you think whatever you want it says
cummins on the side for a reason, you just like to keep
arguing, and when you farm a lot, your not gonna get it done
with a 4020 sorry. Have a happy thanksgiving I'm done
arguing with you,
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o you are not done!!! That is why you came here with that macho attitude. You can't stay away. You WILL be back!!!
 
(quoted from post at 19:55:17 11/19/12) If you keep trading them off every other year you don't lose much money especially if your trading for the same body style, trucks hold money a lot better than cars
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAA! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Okay, so you put, what? $68k or more into a truck and think you're not losing much because you trade it on a newer more expensive truck with money that's worth less and less? Sorry, thinking like that is why so many people lost their houses. If you like the trucks fine, but you never save an money buying a new car or truck. It's impossible.
 
(quoted from post at 08:26:24 11/22/12)
(quoted from post at 19:55:17 11/19/12) If you keep trading them off every other year you don't lose much money especially if your trading for the same body style, trucks hold money a lot better than cars
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAA! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Okay, so you put, what? $68k or more into a truck and think you're not losing much because you trade it on a newer more expensive truck with money that's worth less and less? Sorry, thinking like that is why so many people lost their houses. If you like the trucks fine, but you never save an money buying a new car or truck. It's impossible.
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ep! Sure enough, some people can rationalize themselves into thinking/believing that poop doesn't stink! :roll:
 

Anyone who thinks you don't loose mony by trading cars/trucks every two years needs to relearn addition and subtraction
 
What an entertaining read!

Gentlemen, I believe you have been expertly trolled!

Well done G1355 but I am sure most on here will remember your style and will react accordingly to future attempts.


As for Mopars, I have driven nothing but Chrysler products for many years and like them just fine. When someone tells me how stupid I am for owning Mopars, I just grin and say,"yeah, you're probably right" and then just carry on content in my knowledge that I have what suits me best.

I am a mechanic and work on all brands, there is good and bad in them all.
 
I also would like to see the figures on how you don't lose money trading for a new truck every two years. Maybe a truck salesman could bring me up to speed on that. I leased a Dodge Dually one time and was told to come back in two years and could trade for a new one no money lost. Guess what....? In 2 years with a low mileage truck (Less that 60k miles), I couldn't trade for a new one without $7000.00 cash. No Deal.
 
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