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olliekid 10-16-2012 16:36:10 199.18.34.205 Report to Moderator	I was talking to a guy the other day and somehow or another we ended up talking about the Oliver 2255, Minneapolis Moline G-1355, and the Allis Chalmers D-21. They all have their strengths and weak points, but which one would you take now. Lets say it would be your primary tillage tractor on a 200-300 acre farm. To no surprise I would go to the 2255. I know they are a great starting tractor in the winter which is always a plus. Also it is probably the most powerful of the three tractors with the V8 Cat. I would make sure to buy one with the 3208 in it. I Originally thought it would be the worst on fuel, but it has better specs than the G1355. The G1355 has 9.4 max gallons per hour on the PTO and 9.2 max gallons per hour on the drawbar. The 2255 is 9.4 on the PTO and 7.8 on the drawbar. I wonder why there is such a large difference there... I got all this off tractordata.com. All I could find on the D21 was the max drawbar fuel use is 7.9 gallons per hour. What do you guys think? [Reply]   [No Email]
Oliverguy 10-16-2012 20:17:12 75.149.65.181 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to olliekid, 10-16-2012 16:36:10   Oh, you know my totally unbiased opinion, 2255! You gotta love valve covers hanging out the side. Truthfullly, it has it's goofy quirks, but was a good runner and the three speed is good. Why is everyone hard on the 3150, must have some bad experiences. Mine has one and hasn't let me down yet. [Reply]  [No Email]
Fixerupper 10-16-2012 19:26:19 100.42.82.164 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to olliekid, 10-16-2012 16:36:10   Horsepower hours per gallon is a more accurate measurement of efficiency than gallons per hour. In 1970 a neighbor who farmed 320 acres bought a brand new 4020 diesel. We thought he was crazy for buying that big of a tractor for the amount of land he farmed. Then another neighbor, who also farmed a half section bought a new 4320 Deere. We thought that tractor was totally too big. He had no hay or pasture, only row crops. Jim [Reply]  [No Email]
oldtanker 10-16-2012 20:19:51 66.228.255.239 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to Fixerupper, 10-16-2012 19:26:19   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Actually it's gallons per acre that really counts! Rick [Reply]  [No Email]
Dalet 10-16-2012 19:16:33 184.94.141.146 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to olliekid, 10-16-2012 16:36:10   I know the 4630 wasn't a choice, but I think it was produced in the same time frame. I was a toddler, but I think they still made the other three in 1972? [Reply]  [No Email]
Traditional Farmer 10-16-2012 18:20:36 67.233.70.253 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to olliekid, 10-16-2012 16:36:10   If I was going for a big Oliver I'd rather have a 2150 [Reply]  [No Email]
rrlund 10-16-2012 18:29:59 207.241.137.116 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to Traditional Farmer, 10-16-2012 18:20:36   I'll second that one. I've got that 478 in my 2-135. Good engine. [Reply]  [No Email]
NY 986 10-16-2012 17:24:08 67.142.178.27 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to olliekid, 10-16-2012 16:36:10   If I could choose only from the 3 listed it would have to be the G-1355 provided it was in exceptional condition. RR Lund is right when he says they are expensive to work on. Otherwise it would be a 1466 or 4630. The way I am on the issue of comfort currently (my back among other things) the Sound Guard Cab of the JD would be hard to pass up. Today there are a few 4630's that have 466 engines stuck in them which is better. If we were picking back in the day (1973) then the 1466 would be hard to pass up. [Reply]  [No Email]
olliekid 10-16-2012 18:15:57 199.18.35.83 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to NY 986, 10-16-2012 17:24:08   I didnt mention the 1466 and 4630 because they are in a whole different class. The sound guard cab in JD and the rigid frame and engine of the IH were above the competition. [Reply]  [No Email]
Dalet 10-16-2012 17:12:55 184.94.141.146 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to olliekid, 10-16-2012 16:36:10   Of tractors that age, I would go with a 4630 Deere. Cheapest tractor to own! [Reply]  [No Email]
oldtanker 10-16-2012 17:06:43 66.228.255.239 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to olliekid, 10-16-2012 16:36:10   None of the above. The first one I'd run away from is the AC. I owned 2 at once......my fist and my last! Rick [Reply]  [No Email]
marloweg 10-16-2012 16:47:53 207.118.129.82 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to olliekid, 10-16-2012 16:36:10   2255 was a good tractor BUT the 3208 is a big peace of shi- not a lot of things to fix on it it's just a trough away engine. i would grab the D21 never had one but like the looks of them and the one i know of has been good for the owner [Reply]  [No Email]
B-maniac 10-16-2012 17:03:30 24.231.208.205 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to marloweg, 10-16-2012 16:47:53   Even though I love the Olivers, in this case I would go with the D21 but only the series III. Allis built from bottom up. Seems Oliver just grabbed whose-ever parts and pieces they could get a good deal on and made them fit and called it an Oliver. Waukashaw , Perkins , GM , Cat and probably some we don"t know about and that is just engines , what about clutches , gears , rear ends , hydraulics and T/A,s? I just think the Allis is an "overbuilt" tractor whereas the Olivers are not so much.Just my opinion. [Reply]  [No Email]
olliekid 10-16-2012 18:23:48 199.18.35.83 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to B-maniac, 10-16-2012 17:03:30   if Oliver would have stuck with perkins they might still be around. An 1855 would have sold pretty well with a 354 perkins with a turbo on it. Or even better, Oliver almost did buy Cummins. If they would have bought Cummins, the Oliver name would still be around. [Reply]  [No Email]
rrlund 10-16-2012 16:41:26 207.241.137.116 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to olliekid, 10-16-2012 16:36:10   I think the D21 had a week rear end didn't they? I like the 2255 as long as it has the 3208,but my favorite of the bunch was the Oliver green version of the G1355. I just wouldn't want to have to pay the bill to overhaul one. I think that 585 is one pricey bugger to buy parts for. [Reply]  [No Email]
VicS 10-16-2012 19:40:35 70.195.0.75 Report to Moderator	Re: 2255, G-1355 or D21 in reply to rrlund, 10-16-2012 16:41:26   I think one half of all the D21's sold are in Southern Il. Most loved them. My vote is for the D21. If you just turn the fuel screw all the way in the D21 will out power the others, and it doesn't have a torque to go bad. [Reply]  [No Email]