Baseboard electric heat

I am nearing completetion of my tool room in my shop.

I built a bench with a lower shelf about twenty inches from the floor.

The bench is built with 4x4 legs and unpainted lumber and it is bolted to the wall.

I have an 8 foot section of baseboard heat that I want to use. The question is can I secure the heater to the rear legs of the bench instead of the wall? Also is the clearance to the lower shelf a problem? The shelf is inset from the wall and has air circulation.

The shelf is going to be used for well, tools.

Thanks in advance,

Brad
 
A heater will have clearances to flamibles listed in the instructions, and I would not cheat on those.

It is hard for us to guess without knowing if you have a 120v or 240v or oil filled or.... There are so many options, we would be swinging in the dark and your building might ride on the correct answer?

--->PAul
 
Hey Paul,

The room is 10' x 12' ceiling is 9".

The baseboard in question is 8' long 220v. aluminum fins and I don't think it is oil-filled.

It is used, Berko cat# MBB8-2024-M manf. date 1990.

It is 2000 watts at 208v and probably 2200 or so at 220v.

I have never messed with this particular type of equipment. I would like to have a wall thermostat control this heater and I would think it would have to be double pole.

This heater has a copper capillary tube the lwngth of the fins and would be over the fins while in operation and is connected to an electrical gizmo about the size of a silver dollar which is in series with the heating unit. I assumed that it was an overheat break.

Thanks for letting me pick your brain,

Brad
 

Don't know if you folks have them, but those little oil filled radiators would give nicer and cheaper heat. Can't beat free tho, but it'll be a little hungry on the bill........ As to your ????, It's not gonna hurt your bench, only thing I'd worry about is spilling flammables on the bench and you know the rest.....
 
I don't know the rules either, but tomorrow smarter folks can help with the specs you added.

I too am just uncomfortable with the whole setup. One manufaturer I looked up, said theirs needed 12 inches clearance above the tube top to allow air to circulate.

We have the plug-in oil-filled heaters here, got one from my fother in law used it last winter. Wow, those things get hot, more than I expected, but work well for little heating draft control and the like.

--->Paul
 
Sounds like heaters that came with the old house....same brand I think. I reused one in my office in the new house, 15 years ago. Office is sheetrocked, and heater mounted at baseboard. Office is ahead of attached garage, accessed through laundry room which is heated with forced air, so electric heat is used only occasionally when I"m in there. You mention a wood workbench. In a shop you accumulate a lot of dirt and dust, oil, etc. Wood dries out over time, especially close to heat. I"d feel safer mounting it at the front of the workbench (toe space) and wrapping the wood in sheet steel. Or maybe an overhead infrared electric unit?
 
You might want to check out the Berko/Marley site - appears your model of heater - MBB-M - was recalled for some issues. Altho your date code might put you in the 'no problems' area?


http://www.marleymep.com/en/multimedia-library/pdf/mep-pdf/recalls/mbb-m-baseboard-heater/MBB-M%20How%20to%20Check%20Your%20Heater%203-26-12.pdf

You could buy a new one for 60% off if you have a recalled model:

http://recalls.justia.com/household-and-office/electric-heaters/96-069/

Here is an overview manual of their current heaters, unfortumately they don't answer your question, just say to see the specific model manual.

http://www.berkomep.com/en/multimedia-library/pdf/mep-pdf/ZDA-BCVTR.pdf

They have 4 current models of baseboard heaters, you can find installation pdf files on their site, don't know that those instructions relate to your older model tho, and which model most closely relates. I'll leave that research to you. :) They don't want the heaters enclosed, and current models appear to need a 6 or greater inch space above them?

http://www.berkomep.com/en/berko/pc-heating/

--->Paul
 
Brad,
I would not put anything in front of or over top of a baseboard heater. They use convection to transfer heat. Most have a high temp thermostat running over the heating element for safety. I had a plastic trash can get too close to baseboard and it melted the plastic. Not a good idea to have anything near them.

An 8 ft heater is 250 watts/ft = 2000 watts. When you don't have the space, go with an oil filled heater, only 1500 watts. I like infer-red over head heaters that you can point at yourself. They heat you more than the air. Feel real good. The ones I use have a 100w quartz light built in. Like working in an operating room. Mount one on each end of bench and point them at yourself. They are 750/1500 watts, 120v.

George
 
I think that I am going to see if I can get a bit off on a new heater. I think this qualifys for the recall.

Thanks for all the help guys!

Now I am trying to get things arranged and off the floor. I am trying to decide if I want to hang the electric tools on bolts attached to the plywood. I have a bunch of slatwall that I got from Borders bookstore when they closed but it is pretty fancy for a tool crib. (oak veneer)

I appreciate the responses pro and con!

Brad
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