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| kornfused
09-07-2012 14:22:02
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Article today says cattle in SW MO are dying from eating Johnson grass.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/07/3802264/missouri-cattle-die-after-eating.html
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| Frank A
09-08-2012 07:25:57
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Re: MO Cattle Dying in reply to kornfused, 09-07-2012 14:22:02
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| It's been bad this year. Johnson grass has a good chance of having both prussic acid and nitrates.Prusic acid will (hay out) but nitrates will not.We have received some rain but I am keeping my cows off of the pasture with johnson grass untill after frost and it has dried out.
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| Tx Jim
09-08-2012 03:24:18
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Re: MO Cattle Dying in reply to Wheat Farmer, 09-07-2012 14:22:02
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| Prussic acid is also referred to as hydrocyanic acid. Proper curing of hay with prussic acid poisoning will normally be safe as storage of hay for 3-4 weeks.
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| paul
09-07-2012 23:34:52
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Re: MO Cattle Dying in reply to kornfused, 09-07-2012 14:22:02
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| | Same thing can happen from stressed corn plant, the N builds up in the plant & doesn"t make a normal ear, the N stays in the plant. We got to be careful feeding this year. Also aflotoxin is bad in some areas of the country, cattle are pretty tolerant of it but other critters not so much....
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| JMOR
09-07-2012 19:17:02
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Re: MO Cattle Dying in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-07-2012 14:22:02
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| Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seePrussic acid poisoning....well know here. Johnson grass is baled for winter feeding & can be grazed, but the rancher has to know what he is doing. At the wrong time/conditions, it causes prussic acid poisoning & kills cattle very quickly.
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| old
09-07-2012 19:00:01
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Re: MO Cattle Dying in reply to kornfused, 09-07-2012 14:22:02
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| The way I hear it fescue can do the same thing. I know over the years I have done my best to do the largest number of types of grass /clover mix I can do in my hay so that it is good for most any animal
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| Texasmark1
09-08-2012 05:37:33
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Re: MO Cattle Dying in reply to old, 09-07-2012 19:00:01
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| | This is a new one for me. Course the other day I heard that you can get it from Pearl Millet. So much BS on the waves today don't know what to believe. So the other day I took a sample of some suspect JG with white powder on it, having met the requirements for stressed grass. Sent it to the state ag college with $35 and all I got back was that their lab has no facility to test for PA. Try another lab they said. So much for that. Mark
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| old
09-08-2012 09:15:15
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Re: MO Cattle Dying in reply to Texasmark1, 09-08-2012 05:37:33
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| Ya any more if it isn't one thing it is another thing that will kill you or your live stock or what ever else they can think of. I think any more people have gotten to clean and use to many pills so no wonder we have all this new stuff coming out that will kill us
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| morgan in ar
09-07-2012 15:27:05
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Re: MO Cattle Dying in reply to 36 coupe, 09-07-2012 14:22:02
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| drought (or frost) stressed johnson grass can build up nitrates, much like cornstalks or many other feedstuffs.
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| 37Chief
09-07-2012 15:02:39
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Re: MO Cattle Dying in reply to kornfused, 09-07-2012 14:22:02
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| That must be some bad stuff. That is a big loss to the ranchers.I thought cattle can eat almost anything. My Grandmother said they burned the stickers off of cactus leavs, and the cattle ate them, when hay was scarse. Stan
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| petetx
09-07-2012 19:08:33
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Re: MO Cattle Dying in reply to 37Chief, 09-07-2012 15:02:39
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| Johnson grass that is drought stressed and after the first frost can have a high nitrates we used to have it checked before feeding it
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