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donjr 08-29-2012 05:52:38 71.248.83.169 Report to Moderator	Just had to order a feed roll for a chopper. Called the local NH dealer- and fell over. They want $1545 from NH for the part. Called a local parts yard up in Pennsyltuck, and they have the new, made right up there, for $265. IH came down, Case fell, and now it looks like NH is headed down the same path. Nobody can afford to repair their equipment, so they won't buy it. Had to replace a wear plate yesterday, and a 2 foot long piece of channel iron from CNH $68, and from the local welding shop, $2.50. Of course, I did have to drill 5 holes in it and paint it.... [Reply]   [No Email]
greygoat 08-30-2012 06:20:48 184.158.91.168 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to donjr, 08-29-2012 05:52:38   Just a note to add to a post by Dick2,further down. In the eary 1900's Allis-Chalmers was one of the greatest industrial complex's in the nation, building Giant "Corliss" type steam engines, with 40 foot flywheels. They built the turbines at Hoover dam, still running today,and electric generating plants, and turbines for nuclear power plants, and heavy duty electric motors that I still see running today in sawmills and factorys. Everything was built to a standard of pride and quality. I read that the big guns on the Battleships, Missouri, New Jersey,Iowa, Wisconsin,were turned by Allis-Chalmers, and that nobody today has lathe's big enough to do it anymore! What Happened? What has happened to America ? [Reply]  [No Email]
mkirsch 08-29-2012 11:39:24 64.80.110.75 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to donjr, 08-29-2012 05:52:38   Well, they could just say "NLA. Sorry, you're out of luck." Out of curiosity, what chopper is this? [Reply]  [No Email]
donjr 08-29-2012 11:59:13 71.248.83.169 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to mkirsch, 08-29-2012 11:39:24   892. A lot of the parts are the same on many of the NH's, IH's and Case IH choppers. This one is thirty years old and getting tired. But it's all minor stuff from year to year. It doesn't owe me anything.... [Reply]  [No Email]
jackinok 08-29-2012 08:09:36 162.58.82.136 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to donjr, 08-29-2012 05:52:38   when you build 95% of the worlds parts ,and no one here can compete with you,they sort of have us by the ying yang. the really sad thing is that even if you wanted to build parts here, its getting harder and harder to do it.to build a facility to even make one tenth the parts they do there would put a company so far in debt by the time they followed all the rules and regulations it would not be a paying proposition for 50 years if ever. add in the fact that if it were $1 higher you couldnt sell it, and its that much harder. sad thing really, [Reply]  [No Email]
Dick2 08-29-2012 07:52:44 174.26.218.15 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to donjr, 08-29-2012 05:52:38   As I've said before, whenever a European company takes over an American company, they find a way to run them into the ground. Examples: Mercedes Benz & Chrysler Deutz & Allis Chalmers Mercees Benz and Freightliner & Sterling trucks Fiat & Allis chalmers Construction Eauipment. Just wait; they'll bail somewhere in the future. [Reply]  [No Email]
Traditional Farmer 08-30-2012 02:32:01 67.233.70.253 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to Dick2, 08-29-2012 07:52:44   AC and Chrysler were already in the throws of bankruptcy and had been run in the grounsd by their USA owners when the feriners got ahold of them [Reply]  [No Email]
oldtanker 08-29-2012 20:01:54 66.228.255.239 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to Dick2, 08-29-2012 07:52:44   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Whoa! Wait a second there skippy......Mercedes ruined Chrysler????? When Mercedes took over Chrysler, Chrysler's rate of warrenty issues were some 48 reported repairs per 100 units sold compared to GM and Ford's less than 4 per 100 within the first 2 years of ownership. When Mercedes bailed Chrysler's rates had dropped to under 10 per 100 units. Chrysler's long term reputation ruined Chrysler. In the late 90's my BIL, son and I conducted an informal survey of numbers and types of makes of vehicles in our area. 7 out of 10 vehicles seen on the road, pickup and smaller were, GM and Ford, 2 Chrysler's and one "other". I was working as a mechanic is an independent shop at the time. 1/2 of all auto tranny repairs we did were Chrysler and 4 out of 10 other repairs were Chrysler. That is what lead to their downfall. Don't get me wrong Mercedes has had problems too ever sense they tried to break into the cheaper car market (under 50K). The rest of your statement I agree with 100%. Rick [Reply]  [No Email]
bill in colo 08-29-2012 07:27:54 75.107.0.52 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to donjr, 08-29-2012 05:52:38   Past summer I lost the cutter bar off my 1431 discbine well past 3500 to repair, most parts are up 40% in past three years. [Reply]  [No Email]
Allan In NE 08-29-2012 06:31:19 148.66.98.174 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to donjr, 08-29-2012 05:52:38   Now, wait a minute! It takes a lot of cash to import the parts from China. :>) Allan [Reply]  [No Email]
DeltaRed 08-29-2012 08:09:11 67.6.225.104 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to Allan In NE, 08-29-2012 06:31:19   Thats right.We gotta pay for the 'boat ticket',airfair is even higher.And then it has to be 'first class' to boot! [Reply]  [No Email]
rrlund 08-29-2012 06:28:21 207.241.137.116 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to donjr, 08-29-2012 05:52:38   I broke a feed roll and one of the arms that holds'em on a CaseIH 781 last year. Price for them new wasn't much less than I paid for an 881 to replace the whole machine. I stripped a bunch of parts off the 781 and took it to the scrapper and got part of my money back,so when it was done,it was cheaper to buy the higher capacity 881 than it would have been to fix the otherwise worn out 781. [Reply]  [No Email]
David G 08-29-2012 06:12:38 205.215.206.18 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to donjr, 08-29-2012 05:52:38   I would agree, it seems NH parts are about twice JD. [Reply]  [No Email]
steve_in_mo 08-29-2012 07:05:33 168.166.54.11 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to David G, 08-29-2012 06:12:38   Now that's high! [Reply]  [No Email]
El Toro 08-29-2012 06:11:56 108.3.143.30 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to donjr, 08-29-2012 05:52:38   I needed cutter blades for my edger. Most places wanted $9.99 plus shipping. I called Moxley near Dublin and had 6 made for $4.00 each. When I was still working at APG our metal shop would shear them and we drilled the 5/8 hole. Later on they had a hydraulic punch to make the hole. Sure miss those fringe benefits. Hal [Reply]  [No Email]
george md 08-29-2012 19:20:39 209.213.167.201 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to El Toro, 08-29-2012 06:11:56   Hal, The fellow the runs the machine shop and the drive shaft shop there is my step son. george [Reply]  [No Email]
El Toro 08-30-2012 03:52:22 108.3.143.30 Report to Moderator	Re: Highway Robbery in reply to george md, 08-29-2012 19:20:39   They were very busy when I was there. Hal [Reply]  [No Email]