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john bowers 08-05-2012 12:48:39 71.179.255.226 Report to Moderator	i am staying out of the heat and to have something to do was looking at videos of staring rumley tractors. one showed a man turning the flywheel with his foot in the clockwise rotation. every other engine was started turning the flywheel counter clockwise. in all cases the engine started. the foot start method looked dangerous, one foot on the rear wheel and hand on the pole for the canopy. was this the factory approved way to crank the engine? [Reply]   [No Email]
gold-leaf-deerecqenglish@ 08-05-2012 18:51:29 166.147.120.152 Report to Moderator	Re: rumley oil pull in reply to john bowers, 08-05-2012 12:48:39   Between 1975 and 1980 I owned both of the one cylinder models the 15-30 and the 18-35. It was the accepted way to start them was , put your right foot on the left rear wheel and left foot then on the spokes of the Big flywheel and "walk" the flywheel. I had started both of them this way, Then I heard a story about the 15-30 firing backwards and sent the starting man into the roof, I was told that he died as the results of him not retarding the spark so the engine would fire past TDC and not before TDC. After me starting them by the flywheel walking method and hearing the story about the demise of the poor fellow that was sent upward into the roof, I choose to either belt them with a G John Deere or pull start them with the 830I John Deere. These one cylinder models did not have or never did have a lever to facilitate starting.   [Reply]  [No Email]
john bowers 08-06-2012 04:40:41 173.69.178.194 Report to Moderator	Re: rumley oil pull in reply to gold-leaf-deerecqenglish@, 08-05-2012 18:51:29   thanks for clearing this up, broke my wrist cranking a model t ford. the doc that set it said to keep the thumb on the same side as the other fingers. i thought , now they tell me   [Reply]  [No Email]
Paul Searl 08-05-2012 18:33:09 66.254.215.22 Report to Moderator	Re: rumley oil pull in reply to john bowers, 08-05-2012 12:48:39   A local actually starts his barefoot. says he gets a better grip and is less likely to slip. Tough guy, but knows his oil pulls. I love the sound of them, but would not be keen on starting one myself. I will say though, it seems like they start with a lot less effort then cranking on a bar.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Colophil 08-05-2012 17:23:38 70.196.196.16 Report to Moderator	Re: rumley oil pull in reply to john bowers, 08-05-2012 12:48:39   John, On the early heaveyweights, model B 25-45 1910-1912; model E 30-60 1910-1923; and model F 18-35 1911-1918: That was the way they were started. with the 30-60 you are spinning a ton of metal. Philip   [Reply]  [No Email]
john bowers 08-05-2012 16:25:24 71.179.255.226 Report to Moderator	Re: rumley oil pull in reply to john bowers, 08-05-2012 12:48:39   here is the video that shows the clockwise rotation of the flywheel and foot start.if that engine kick backs, they could be hurt bad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxoHScg9J9o&feature=related   [Reply]  [No Email]
Janicholson 08-05-2012 13:39:57 96.24.99.126 Report to Moderator	Re: rumley oil pull in reply to john bowers, 08-05-2012 12:48:39   No. Several methods were used, but none were foot propelled. Is I remember the neighbor starting his 60 Belt HP Oilpull, The larger Rumleys had a lever pivoted on the crankshaft, behind the FW and hooking into a cast in place ledge on the back of the FW. The engine was turned to a mark, the timing was retarded, the gasoline-for starting-was introduced into the carb, and some trickeled into the open compression release petcocks, the lever hook was put in place, and the engine was pulled through with the body weight of the operator. Danger was available if no timing retard was performed, as it would fire and turn backwards, Ouch. Others were started by turning them modestly past the mag impulse trigger by hand like a early JD. Jim   [Reply]  [No Email]
BushogPapa 08-05-2012 16:45:45 173.88.51.117 Report to Moderator	Re: rumley oil pull in reply to Janicholson, 08-05-2012 13:39:57   Maybe they didn't show "Pre-Oiling" the engine before it is started..?? Those don't have "Forced Oiling" from an oil pump in the sump..there IS NO oil in the sump..!! Oiled similar to some 2-stroke engines... All of the oil eventually goes out the exhaust.. ALL oil is pumped in via a pump on top of the engine..you can see the pump rotate as the engine runs.. At the Steam show in Plain City a couple of years ago..there was a Very Large Oil-Pull there that was started as described above... Ron.   [Reply]  [No Email]