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Thanks for your previous comments on windrow rakes. It seems that 4 bar rakes may be the best choice. I have a 2700lb tractor with 35hp and a very small wallet. My field is bunch grass(ryegrass, orchard and brome). I have heard that wheel rakes are hard to use but don't cost as much. Any ideas?

jacksfork
 
Get a five bar IH 16 side delivery rake. About 12 hundred for one with good tires, good jack, good gearbox and all the teeth there.
 
I raked many, many acres of hay with a JD H, 13h.p. and a 4 bar rake or a parallel bar rake. We always raked in 3rd gear at about 6mph, which is as fast a an H will go. Doesn't take much power.
 
I use either my farmall A or JD M to pull my side delivery rake. Neither tractor has any problems pulling but I like the way the A turns better. Bud
 
Find an old NI 504 or 505 (I think they are the right numbers), 4 or 5 bar , belt driven rake. If the belt is bad, you can get one, for about $150.00. Check the end bearings of the basket, that is the only other thing that commonly goes bad. I have seen these rakes go for as little as $25, at auction, Wish I still had mine, as a backup, for the often broke down NH 256!
 
If you want to leave about a third of your hay in the field get a John Deere 4 bar rake if you want to get all your hay in get a New Holland 5 bar like a
256 Model.
 
We have a IH #16 pulled by aSuperC,and a #35 (stretched to 12') pulled by a SuperH.Dont even think a 3 point rake...
 
I can pull a 5 bar belt drive rake in 3rd gear with a 2500 pound, 23 hp Ford 8N with no problems.

Rick
 
If you are in a position it would not have to travel on the road very far I would get a New Idea #4 steel wheel rake. It's a 4 bar rake that the basket can be put it reverse and used as a tedder (rake / tedder combo rake). Two tools for one money. If a couple horses can pull it I figure just about any tractor can. Most can be had for under a couple hundred bucks (scrap price is about $75). Down side is the steel wheels are not meant to be on pavement. I'll go short distances but not miles.

They also made the same rake with rubber tires (#45 I think). Not as common but if you find one it can be moved on pavement like any other rake.
 
We rake with a Kuhn Sr110 (10 wheels), pull it with a NH TC29(29 HP). Hard to use? Taught my neighbor's daughter how to rake in about 10 minutes. She does a great job.
 
Thsat should be able to pull any siderake you can afford. I used to use my BiL's 15 hp Kubota tractor to pull my NH 5 bar 55 side rake, and that tractor was tired.... Could drive as fast as I wanted to hang on, and I have hills.

Got a 5 wheel cheapie 3pt siderake, pull that with my 27 hp compact tractor, nothing to it.

The 5 bar rollabar rake is _far_ superior to the 5-wheel. I'm glad I have both, but.... would never give up my old rollabar....

Doesn't take much to pull a rake.

--->Paul
 
There are 3pt wheel rakes with 2,3, 4 wheely rakes or more, have one 3 wheel but not used (nothing to rake lol!)
No need for hydraulics. All done with your 3pt., If you go that route, bore your center of wheels and put a grease nipple on the bearings will last longer.
 
I found an old Dearborn side delivery (roll cage) rake in the "weeds" at a neighbor's place. Paid $35 for it. I would go behind another neighbor's big wheel rake and get what it missed.
 
i have a 8 wheel tonnutti(sp)? it sure pulls sweet behind my 49 h with added live hydraulics most of my fields i can pull it in 4th gear
 
This is what I have found out over the years. 3pt wheel rakes work the best on flat ground, Uneven and rolling fields tend to leave hay unraked. Wheel rakes do a good job with courser hay, In grass type hay they tend to leave alot behind. I have been using an old JD 896 4 bar rake for 10 years now and it dont matter what kind on hay it is it will rake it and make a good windrow. I gave $210 for it and took it to the field that day and in 10 years I may have spent $100 in repairs to it. Anyone can rake with a 3pt pto or pull type bar rake and do a good job, But 3pt or pull type wheel rakes are more tricky to use. 3pt wheel rakes are hard to turn corners with but 3pt pto rakes are easer to corner with and pull type bar rake make the best corners. For what you have described I would look for a 4 or 5 bar pull type rake to use, There are alot of them out there that can be bought cheep enough. Bandit
 
I appreciate everyone taking the time to help me learn traditional farming. There is no better knowledge than that learned from experience. Thanks for sharing it with me.
 
We use a JD 640 hay rake on our hay fields.

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It is a <a href="http://youtu.be/D-5HQ9Q7OGY">4 bar, left hand delivery, ground driven rake</a>.

Paid $700 for a pair of them several years ago.

It <a href="http://youtu.be/rMIPYDZbex8">makes really tight left hand turns</a> and <a href="http://youtu.be/PlcFC8Di37s">leaves little or no grass on the ground</a>.

<a href="http://youtu.be/zLMpmeQ2FOA">Pull it with a JD 51MT 18 horsepower tractor</a> running in third gear at 4<font size="1"><sup>1</sup>/<sub>2</sub></font> mph.
 
I've raked a ton of hay with a 4 bar IH rake and a farmall cub. Slow but it worked. Also been seen raking hay with an old horse drawn bar rake, like the one mentioned that can be reversed to ted hay, with an Arctic Cat 4 wheeler. Kippster
 
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