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dave2 07-15-2012 06:07:57 139.139.35.69 Report to Moderator	Just moved some roundbales under normal conditions (read normal as wet ground)... Got along good except kinda skinned/slipped (??) the top couple inches of ground in a couple areas where I had to turn and slightly clime a little. Woud the tires themselves being filled have prevented this or is it just something to live with?? Murphy hangs around here so much that I keep shying from filling the tires but if it'll save the ground, I will... Thanks, Dave [Reply]   [No Email]
buickanddeere 07-15-2012 10:42:16 209.240.124.118 Report to Moderator	Re: loaded tires again??? in reply to dave2, 07-15-2012 06:07:57   How full were the tires filled? Too much fluid and the tire begins to respond like a a steel wheel with a rubber tread bolted to it. Should be able to jack up a tire, turn the stem to 12 o'clock, remove the valve stem core and have no fluid escape. When using the loader and not pulling or carrying heavy tillage equipment on the three point. The rear tire pressure can be lowered to approx 6 psi.   [Reply]  [No Email]
WGWKy2 07-15-2012 09:19:53 98.23.56.251 Report to Moderator	Re: loaded tires again??? in reply to dave2, 07-15-2012 06:07:57   There is a safety factor with balast on a loader tractor no matter how you get it, I load the tires on the loader tractor with Rim Guard.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Walt Davies 07-15-2012 09:15:26 166.250.9.225 Report to Moderator	Re: loaded tires again??? in reply to dave2, 07-15-2012 06:07:57   Filled tires make huge difference in handling and traction. All my tractors use water we don't get that cold here to freeze the water in the tires. I also keep them in the barn. Wheel weights are nice but hell to handle when changing a tire. Walt   [Reply]  [No Email]
Billy NY 07-15-2012 06:18:43 67.248.100.3 Report to Moderator	Re: loaded tires again??? in reply to dave2, 07-15-2012 06:07:57   Same thing happens when the ground is frozen, while moving heavier loads like wood, back end even with ballasted tires, and a big ole cast iron counter weight on the back, skins the surface, grass comes back, but it can stop the tractor, usually happens when going up an incline or any kind of slope. On yours those loader arms project further, nice for reach, but it would appear, heavier loads would do exactly what you are describing, ballasted tires may help, but you can still put a heavy enough load on even with filled tires, that will do that. Like I said above, mine are filled, and with that counterweight, it can still do this, tells me to lighten the loads, really pushing it even though the tractor can handle it, in reality its really too much weight on the loader.   [Reply]  [No Email]
dave2 07-15-2012 06:26:05 139.139.35.69 Report to Moderator	Re: loaded tires again??? in reply to Billy NY, 07-15-2012 06:18:43   Kinda hopin for that answer... I had a bale on the loader and one on the 3pt.. Liiiiittle bit of a pucker factor on uneven ground with just one on the loader... Pretty happy with it as it is so far... I'll just keep my eye open for bolt on wheel weights....   [Reply]  [No Email]
Billy NY 07-15-2012 06:50:19 67.248.100.3 Report to Moderator	Re: loaded tires again??? in reply to dave2, 07-15-2012 06:26:05   Yeah, those would be ideal, and barring the discussion of CACL, like we have seen, which I've not had much trouble with at all in 10 years on this tractor, ole 850 ford, tire guy actually caused one to fail cause he did not install the tube right, or the valve was bad, I repaired it myself, repaired the rim too, he said it would be fine, some people are just lazy no good liars LOL ! I'd still opt for wheel weights if they could provide equivalent ballast. One thing is for sure, and you have to know by now what you can lift and the terrain that allows it, these are little tractors, with just enough power to get into trouble if you push it. I will say this, I have run all kinds of heavy equipment in the past and know the power and capacity, when I first got this old beast, I thought it was a joke, slow hydraulics, but sure in heck will lift a lot more than I thought, and I recognize that properly ballasted, like mine is, its really quite stable on the flat, and a tolerates a little slope, the loader keeps the front down and the weight on the back keeps the front from tipping, any of the utility size tractors similar in size to an 850, say with a loader and rear weight, loaded tires, is really a darned handy machine to have. I have loaded an awful lot of hay from the rolling hills we have around here, and with large tractors, and smaller utility size ones, you get the feel for what to do, what not to do, sometimes I will lift em slightly, and skid em to flatter ground, never came close to lifting a rear wheel, and some of those bales were those big dense square bales, like below. As you know with no r.o.p.s and or seatbelt, though maybe you have that tucked in the cab, just not a pleasant thought if you turn over, even then, still scares the heck out of me, some of the fields here, will provide well beyond the pucker factor, when planting with my farmer friend, I followed his tracks or how he went along the fields, and some of them I plain flat out stopped first and asked, him, last thing I want to do is flip one of these big expensive tractors, never even came close, spray outfit calls his ground "goat country" ! Photos may not do the hills justice but trust me, this ground is nothing close to flat !   [Reply]  [No Email]