subsidies (??)... I about fell over today....

Anonymous-0 · Jul 2, 2012

Talking to a farmer that has a couple of small places that join a couple pastures. Was asking if I could fence them off since they were so small for his big tractors. Not allowed because of the subsidies he gets... He can only cut them once a year and pick the stuff up loose to feed...

This guy is an organic dairy farmer with 50 acres (25 hectare) of sugar beets and grass (don't know the mix).... he said for the 25 hectare that he gets 14000 euro from the government, then extra money because he feeds his cattle natural (not chemically fertilized) grass/feed.....
with the exchange rate, that's right at $300 per acre..... just on the land..... Normal farmers get half that and have the expense of buying fertilizer...

Unbelieveable........

paul · Jul 2, 2012

Yea, things get out of hand, don't they?

Japan has similar stuff.

Then the USA gets upset, can't compwete with that, so does their own subsidy, and then that gets oyut of hand too....

And so it snowballs.

Farming is an odd business, person invests for 5 yyears to hit it big one year, lose 2 years, and come out average 3 years. Govts play games with grains and mess up markets. mother nature can throw a hardball high & in, and take everyone down.

Govt kinda needs to provide some sort of backstop to farm losses in a real bad year - it is a national security issue really, with food for a nation at stake, but the way things have gone, it just gets silly.

--->Paul

Billy NY · Jul 2, 2012

That is a nice sum, you could pay the high taxes here with that and use the remaining $5000 off that 50 to 60 acres tillable on this place, out of 98 total, for the field work, inputs etc., that would be awesome.

Not sure I understand the financial, economic, tax structure over there, but what in heck supports it, a bunch of angry taxpayers with sore butts ? LOL !

Anonymous-0 · Jul 2, 2012

(quoted from post at 12:01:22 07/02/12) but what in heck supports it, a bunch of angry taxpayers with sore butts ? LOL !

Exactly........

ShadetreeRet · Jul 2, 2012

Yeah, we need some FARMERS in Washington, not a bunch of city slicker lawyers who wouldn't know which end of a lawn mower to hake hold of.

DENNIS MIN · Jul 2, 2012

Red,

Some politicians, well, I would prefer them to grab the underside while in operation!

D.

Switchflicker · Jul 2, 2012

Saw a Sewer pumpout truck the other day with a sign on the side. "This truck is full of Political Promices"

Mike (WA) · Jul 2, 2012

Europe has always had a very "active" subsidy program. A neighboring farmer went to Finland a number of years ago. Just for fun, he traced a carton of strawberries all the way from the farmer to the consumer. The farmer actually received more for the berries than the consumer paid for them in the store, never mind the markups of the wholesaler and retailer in between.

Nice work, if you can find it. . .

Spook · Jul 3, 2012

I know a Swiss guy, he told me that his brother owns a 10 acre dairy farm. That's all he does, the government subsidies are pretty big. They want tourists to see the little farms, and the food security.

Spook · Jul 3, 2012

I know a Swiss guy, he told me that his brother owns a 10 acre dairy farm. That's all he does, the government subsidies are pretty big. They want tourists to see the little farms, and the food security.

Ken Macfarlane · Jul 3, 2012

Thats crazy, the most we get is a property tax delay, you can push
your taxes back 25 years max. Then if you take it out of ag use,
you have to pay back the latest 25 years of tax at a residential rate.

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