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Dean 06-23-2012 13:56:47 67.172.15.77 Report to Moderator	Does anyone know when GM changed the tire pressure monitoring system such that one must have a special device to reprogram position after tire rotation? I could "learn" the sensors in my 2009 Malibu by decreasing pressure while in learn mode but according to the owners manual for my 2012 Malibu, the sensors are taught with a device that one must hold near the valve stem while in learn mode. This is annoying as I rotate my tires myself and cannot reprogram the sensors. Anyone know if and where I can get the device? Thanks in advance. Dean [Reply]   [No Email]
BushogPapa 06-23-2012 19:22:04 173.88.50.86 Report to Moderator	Re: OT GM Service Techs in reply to Dean, 06-23-2012 13:56:47   More crap I suppose we "Must" have on a vehicle.?? Bad enough they saddle us with the "ABS".. I prefer to have CONTROL of my Vehicle..and YES, I KNOW my tires are properly inflated.. Some vehicles call for tire pressures in the mid 20's.. Wonder why (at those pressures) they were prone to "Roll-Over"..!!! I know..they are trying to make them IDIOT Proof...but it does Insult me... Ron.. [Reply]  [No Email]
Hal/Eastern WA 06-24-2012 16:53:29 97.119.244.50 Report to Moderator	Re: OT GM Service Techs in reply to BushogPapa, 06-23-2012 19:22:04   We have one of the last Pontiac Vibes produced in 2010, and for the most part, it has been an excellent car. Which is what we expected since we also still have a 2006 Vibe. The only thing that has been a problem with the 2010 is the tire pressure monitor system, and the fact that one of the OEM tires has a very slow leak that the GM people cannot find and correct. I end up having to add air to that one tire about every 3 weeks when the warning light comes on. It takes 35 pounds of pressure to get it to go out. I never have to add air to the other tires, but I check them, since the warning light does not specify which tire is a little low. The car is a pretty fancy model with the larger engine and alloy wheels, but that was what we could get when we decided to buy a new car, just at the end of Pontiac production. I wish I understood why the manufacturers want to put the stupid large wheel, very low profile tires on so many cars. Those tires are more expensive to replace than the higher profile tires cars used to use. And with the older style tires, it really didn"t matter much if the air pressure in a tire was a few pounds low, since you had a couple of inches of cushion in the sidewalls. Now, watch out if you hit an unexpected pothole. You might be buying a new wheel as well as a new tire. It seems to me that on most cars, it would be a whole lot more practical to use higher profile, cheaper tires as the standard. If someone wanted to have the higher performance low profile tires, they should be available as an option. Maybe the tire pressure monitors are necessary with the low profile tires. But I bet my car cost the manufacturer a couple of hundred dollars more to build with the big wheels, low profile tires and the tire monitoring system. Do I need any of those features on a little station wagon I mostly bought for the good gas mileage? Nope. Since GM does not seem to be able to get the offending tire/wheel to stop leaking, I have thought of Slimeing the tire. But that would probably mess up the balancing on the tire and might ruin the sensor for the pressure monitor...and I heard those cost about $70 each to replace them. So I just keep adding air every few weeks. GRRRRR [Reply]  [No Email]
BushogPapa 06-24-2012 18:15:29 173.88.50.86 Report to Moderator	Re: OT GM Service Techs in reply to Hal/Eastern WA, 06-24-2012 16:53:29   Have the tire broken down and have the Beads sealed with a good "Gasket-Making" Silicone and the leak will stop... Any future problem, shoot some Green Slime in the tire and Forget about any leaks.. Only thing the "Tire Pressure Monitor" is good for is to be a PITA.. Ron.. [Reply]  [No Email]
Dean 06-24-2012 06:48:51 67.172.15.77 Report to Moderator	Re: OT GM Service Techs in reply to BushogPapa, 06-23-2012 19:22:04   Don't blame the manufacturers. Blame tort attorneys and the democrats who are in their hip pocket. Dean [Reply]  [No Email]
rustyfarmall 06-24-2012 06:39:13 67.55.162.174 Report to Moderator	Re: OT GM Service Techs in reply to BushogPapa, 06-23-2012 19:22:04   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Just another item on my list of things that I do not want on my next new vehicle. Right up there with "on star" "XM radio", parking assist, and any kind of voice activated functions. I KNOW how to drive. [Reply]  [No Email]
BushogPapa 06-24-2012 18:17:23 173.88.50.86 Report to Moderator	Re: OT GM Service Techs in reply to rustyfarmall, 06-24-2012 06:39:13   From the movie "Tough Guys"... "HOW do ya SHUT this Broad up"....!!! Ron.. [Reply]  [No Email]
rick kr 06-23-2012 15:10:20 166.249.112.177 Report to Moderator	Re: OT GM Service Techs in reply to Dean, 06-23-2012 13:56:47   Dean. You can still do reprogram by letting air out check the OM. Preferred way is the tool. Push and hold both the lock and unlock at the same time on the key fob. Left frt blinker will light up. Let out air for 30 secs. Wait for beep. Right frt blinker will light. Same thing, air down for 30 wait for horn beep. Work the rest of the way around. I can double check on monday to be 100%. Hth. Rick [Reply]  [No Email]