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Grass got ahead of the calves, wasn't enough acres to get the big round baler out, so my Uncle decided it was time to do a few tootsie rolls. Laid it all down with a 6430, a 6420 Deere and a pair of 10` disk mowers. Raked it up with a Super 90 Massey pulling a New Holland 258 Rollabar. The rolled it up with a 4520 Deere pulling a 2 different Allis-Chalmers white top balers (692 bales from one and 219 from the other.) Little twine trouble from "vintage" rotobaler twine balls, and a few butt chewings for improper windrows, it went very well. Orschlen's Sisal baler twine will do about 200 roto bales per twine bale.

Now baling pictures







Tommy
 
Man that brings back some memories. I would bale with a rotobaler, then take the 4 wheeler with a snow blade, and "herd" about 10-15 bales together, with the snow blade, then pitch them into a 1-ton mason dump truck, I think I could get about 75-80 of 'em on there! Now I got a real round baler, and the tractors do all the work!!!
 
Yeah, me too. 6 bales a minute in heavy hay with big windrows. White top baler. If the hay was right could bale a thousand or more. Same hay tomorrow may only get two hundred. Most finicky piece of machinery I have ever been around. All the people that got killed with one of them got mad and jumped in them.]

Dave
 
Brings back lots of bad memory's,lol. Baled many
thousand with a orange top with a chain drive to
the pickup and a 50 John Deere. Ran the 50 in 3rd
gear and never completely pushed the clutch in. It
would smoke a little but never seemed to hurt it
much. A clutch would last all year. I remember
baling never looking back and listening for the
twine arm to fall. No body ever raked completely
right for a tootsie roll baler. Vic
 
We used to put up 3-4000 of them a year. Dad and I hauled them ourselves in the back of a pickup 35 a trip. The last year I baled with it was 1980, we went to a slightly bigger bale, 706A Vermeer. I still have the old orange top but it isn't useable, Grandpap bought it new.
 
My FIL was an all Allis man and thrifty to a fault. when his roto baler needed belts he simply parked it out in the fencerow. I begged him to sell it or keep it in, but he wouldn't. It sits next to his #25 JD combine.
 
(quoted from post at 22:27:29 05/18/12) Yeah, me too. 6 bales a minute in heavy hay with big windrows. Dave
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Dave
It's hard enough to average 6 bales per minute with a sq baler(no need to stop) and I can't envision stopping 6 times in a minute with a Roto-baler to get that many baled per minute.
 
Looks good to me. My dad bought a Roto baler in1948, and baled hay with it till 1988. Always kept inside, and put new belts on in aroud 1986. Only baler he ever needed,and he would make 4-5000 balesever year. Dad wold just cut in the morning, then go and rake an earlier cut field and bale in the afternoon. We never picked up a bale till all the baling was done for the year. Then we would go at it when my brothers and I where home , 3 sometimes 4 of us and dad, two or three wagons, and you would be suprised at how fast you could clear off a field. I mostly worked in the mow, with Dad on the elavator, lots of fun and good memories. Mom always had a roast beef or pork noon meal for us with lots of pie, and late in the afternoon Dad would always come up with a few beers. My folks are long gone now and my brothers are in their 60's. I still farm, and have the Alis tucked away in a shed, should drag her out , won't count on my big brothers to come help , maybe with some of the beer drinking,Ha Ha. Bruce
 
Yes, they can be very finicky. One thing with them is for sure, and that is you will never have a small round bale spoil from the inside. The wet hay simply won't go through the baler without all kinds of problems. The baler will tell you when the hay is ready. Mike
 
Dad's machine - pulled with a JD 1949 B and done 4 bales a minute with non live power per his story. Pulled later with a JD 70 - made 80 pound size - lifted many ton to these in my youth - had a bail loader that pulled beside the wagon. Guy down the road from us got his arm in the intake rollers and held him self out for a long time. AC dealer come out and cut him out. Spent a long time recovering and keep his arm and still farmed.
 
Yep, the rotobaler works best after 6. Me too, 6 beers, that is. I never had much of a problem, with the white top, that I used, but it absolutely did not like wet hay. I just put up 64 500 lb round bales, with my Heston 5530, today. I reminisce, about the old rotobaler, but don't miss it much!
 
Roto-baling is fun and semi-practical. I could have rolled it up with a 568 Deere and made about 45 big bales in about 2 hours, then spend 3 hours hauling them out and then hauled back to feed the calves.
or roll and leave lay let the calves pick as they wish, when they get sold let the cows have the reminder.

I average around 2000 big bales a year, this is a nice change of speed.

Tommy
 

http://www.orschelnfarmhome.com/sisal-baler-twine-9000-feet/ctl16754/cp58053/si5187178/cl1/

Tied a 5 gallon bucket to the twine box and put the bale in it.

Tommy
 
(quoted from post at 02:50:49 05/19/12)
(quoted from post at 22:27:29 05/18/12) Yeah, me too. 6 bales a minute in heavy hay with big windrows. Dave
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Dave
It's hard enough to average 6 bales per minute with a sq baler(no need to stop) and I can't envision stopping 6 times in a minute with a Roto-baler to get that many baled per minute.
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I believe it. If the baler and hay is right, you could bale in 3rd gear, wide open throttle with a WD45. Sometimes, you had enough hay on the table to spit out two bales without moving. They would easily bale more hay than a square baler. But, as it was said earlier, the next day you may only get 50 bales the entire afternoon.
My dad's had an aftermarket gizmo that would help feed the twine when you pulled a rope. Without that, it meant more trips to hand feed the twine.

They killed a lot of people when the twine didn't feed right and people didn't shut off the PTO before working on them. I think at least 2 people in Iowa each year were killed by them in their hayday.
 
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