Frosted corn

IaGary · Apr 14, 2012

There was a guy (BTO)about 60 miles south of me that planted about 1800 acres of corn starting in March.

It came up and looked good till Wednesday of this week.

Just heard last night that it all has to be replanted. Also heard last night that he has gone broke before and started over.

Some people just try to cause problems for themselves.

This probably is a $100,000 plus booboo.

Gary

Anonymous-0 · Apr 14, 2012

Yep,,,With big farms come big mistakes,,,,,,See it more and more all the time...... Around here ever body has gotten big or gotten OUT..
Then we get a short seeding season and guys cant get over all there acres so then they collect on preventive plant acres...
Insurance companies in north Dakota have got bust in droves...
Does make me wounder how long it can go on but thats what the program is so you have to follow it if your going to stay with it...
Just makes me wounder tho some times.

the tractor vet · Apr 14, 2012

Yea Mach weather was super nice BUT NOT THAT NICE . There was a little oats planted just before the return of more seasonable weather . I did see one guy that was starting to plant corn here Thursday , but he is the only one . Over here in our corner of Ohio things can still get nasty till the end of May. I still have to work on the disc and finish up the 706 then pull the injection pump on the 806 and then i will look the corn planter over . Rain is moving in on us and that will slow down my work since we do not have a shop anymore.

David G · Apr 14, 2012

I am close to you, people are just starting to put corn in. April 11th was the official start date, because insurance will cover it if planted after that date.

We are planning on getting started within the next two weeks, and have about 200 acres to plant with a 6 row.

tomNE · Apr 14, 2012

kinda hard to believe that the corn growing point froze. corn has to be awfully tall before the growing point comes outta the ground. i'd bet it froze off the top and won't have to be replanted!

the tractor vet · Apr 14, 2012

For the most part we have a lot of smaller farms but there are the want to be big boys that run all over the place trying to farm big on small scattered acreage with big equipment travling on back roads that are narrow and vary hilly with we got to go yuppys that fly . One of these days there will be a bad accident . It is tough enough just moving a 4 row planter or our 18 foot wing disc folded over these back roads from field to field . And moving the haybine or corn picker can be a nightmare. My one friend farms a little over 200 acres of crops and milks 42 head with all older equipment all if it super nice well cared for washed and waxed . everything is done in a timely manner . Where as his neighbor down the road who has to scarf up every little patch of ground and runs all over two townships or more Finally finished up his corn and beans and is scrambling tryen to find help to milk his 500 head herd as his last barn help ran off when the ICE people came to town a couple weeks ago and had a raid at the meat plant , and he was bragging about how well they worked about a month ago . Now it is him his boy and his wife . Saw him yesterday and he really looks tired .

the tractor vet · Apr 14, 2012

From what i was told if your just in the two leaf stage and it gets nipped your ok BUT once your in the four leaf stage your done for.

rrlund · Apr 14, 2012

If some people had livestock so they had something to do with their time,they wouldn't get in such a hurry to get out there.

Howard H. · Apr 14, 2012

I agree with you, Tom. We planted pretty early one year and had several hundred acres frozen off of 4-5 inch tall corn.

I thought it was done for, but the crop guy said give it a few days since the growing point was still low - I was amazed how it didn't seem to really hurt it permanently...

Howard

Mike (WA) · Apr 14, 2012

What would be the advantage to planting corn early, other than leaving more time to plant more acres (and maybe that's all there is to it). In my experience with garden corn, there is simply no advantage to planting in March (or even April, here), until the soil warms up for good, and the rain turns warm.

We seldom have a freeze problem here, but I've seen silage corn fields planted a month apart, and the early one comes up, turns yellow and sits there and shivers- and by July, there's no difference between fields.

You sure won't get an extra "cutting", and with your varieties, you're sure to get a crop if you plant "on time", needn't be early.

So why risk it?

skip33652 · Apr 14, 2012

insurance will pay

rustyfarmall · Apr 14, 2012

(quoted from post at 10:04:38 04/14/12) insurance will pay

Insurance will NOT pay. Earliest planting date to be eligible for federal crop insurance was April 15.

paul · Apr 14, 2012

Whsat part of IA are you in? Last week went down to very near the Amana Colonies, Blairstown, to pick up some wheel rims. Was a nice trip, down to Clear Lake, over to Charles City, down to Waterloo, and 50 miles south, then east to Ames, and north back to MN.

Much hillier over there than I thought IA was. Only saw a very few fields planted, thought that far down they had an earlier plant date, would all be hard at it. Common sense is alive tho!

Was a long day, 600 miles, wife was off work so she actually did most of the driving. Pretty good little farm tour tho.

--->Paul

JMS/.MN · Apr 14, 2012

Planting date for insurance depends on location. Certainly can"t be the same date across the US- depends on latitude. Central MN, corn date is April 9, soybeans is April 21.

IaGary · Apr 14, 2012

Paul I can see the Amana water towers from my place. I'm down here in the Iowa River valley and so are the Amana's.

I'm 7 miles east of the Amana's.

The planted corn was around Sigourney.

Gary

Anonymous-0 · Apr 14, 2012

Do you attend the Homestead AC and MM shows on Father's day weekend? Believe the AC show recently moved.

IaGary · Apr 14, 2012

Yes but not every year.

paul · Apr 14, 2012

I think we were about 15 miles NW of the colonies.

You know a fella with a whole lot of military trucks, whole lot?

--->Paul

omahagreg · Apr 14, 2012

That would be painful! Uncle says his neighbor-several years ago-directed the coop to spray round up on a whole field of NON round up ready beans. These are big operators, several brothers, and they were slowly trying the 'new' variety, but not all. Guess somebody forgot which fields were which!

IaGary · Apr 14, 2012

Nope never heard of the fellow with the trucks. Where's he?

I saw where you were by Blairstown, which is 15 miles nw of the Amanas.

I deal with the CaseIH dealer there.

Gary

Lumpie · Apr 14, 2012

They're trying to get it harvested early so they will still be able to sell it at old crop contract prices, quite a bit higher than new crop.

Erik Ks farmer · Apr 14, 2012

No Sir, April 5 was our date.

Erik Ks farmer · Apr 14, 2012

Someone else said insurance date vary, and they do our date was April 5 here. I am going to start early next week depending on how much rain we get tonight.

Fergienewbee · Apr 14, 2012

Ia Gary;

I've been to the Amana's several times. Like to stock up on wine. I've hunted around Marengo and Brooklyn. Nice folks. I like the little restaurant on 6 and 151? Don't remember the name. If I get out that way this summer, I'll buy lunch. I'd love to see your operation.

Larry

Larry

NY 986 · Apr 14, 2012

Supposedly there is a fair amount of corn and soybeans in now here which is unusually early. Typically most corn and beans go in after the first of May. From what I have heard it is pretty much BTO's and I am thinking they are testing their capabilities of handling more ground if they can gain a few weeks in the spring.

Josh in Pa · Apr 14, 2012

I like to read the new ag talk forums, and it sounds like a lot of corn was planted in march. Every few days they are talking about frost. I think it was a big risk. Around here (s.e. Pa) guys are starting, but there is very little corn in the ground.
Josh

jm. · Apr 14, 2012

Never that much but we have had some bit pretty hard and when sun and warm weather came it came back and really did fine. Last May had over 600 acres get flood water ( back water) over it for around 70 hrs. Most of it survied and di good like 190 bu or better. The people in the know said 78 hrs was the killing point but know ours stayed under 70 hrs and made it. If I were him I certainly would waid a few days and see.

IaGary · Apr 14, 2012

Yell when you get close.

That restaurant on 6 and 151 is closed if it's the one I think you are talking about.

There's others that are good though.

Gary

flying belgian · Apr 14, 2012

So what really is the reason for planting early? If you say it can freeze off and re come up two weeks later and get same yield, why not just plant it two weeks later and not get it froze? Two years ago my neighbors got froze when mine was just a day away from coming up. His was 4-5 inches tall. It took his about a week to come up so mine was ahead of his all season. In the end he said his yield just as good as mine. But all the same I am glad it was his that looked terrible and not mine. Even if his did yield same why go through the grief of frost? Why take the chance?

504 · Apr 14, 2012

There has been corn up for over three weeks around here and it looks like they got away with it, my place was planted Thursday.

paul · Apr 14, 2012

He had the rims from an army truck that fit my Ford 600. Mine has the widowmaker rims on it, can't get them worked on. 9.00-20 tires on 6 hole pilot stud rims, hard to find. Never knew what they were, well you learn after you but a truck during harvest season.

He is a tad NW of Blairstown. Must have 40-50 army vehicles around his yard - you can actually see them on Google. Nice fella.

--->Paul

1936 · Apr 16, 2012

Yes, crop insurance usually starts in Mid April for you area. Can't fool mother nature.

Howard H. · Apr 16, 2012

In my case, I was at the mercy of the custom planter"s schedule of when he was going to be in my area. Working me in before some of his bigger customers was the only way he could get me - and I didn"t have a planter of my own...

Howard

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