Hy Tran oil

BartO · Apr 13, 2012

I have a International 340 which calls for Hy Tran oil in the transmission and hydraulic system. Through my employer, I can get high quality Shell Tellus T hydraulic oil for $5 less per gallon. I haven't started my research yet, so I will start it here. Does anyone know if using straight hydraulic will hurt the transmission?

LJD · Apr 13, 2012

Hydraulic oil does not have the EP antiwear additives that transnmission gears need. So yes it will "hurt" the trans since it won't protect it properly. Combo trans/hydraulic oil has the EP additives and also wet-clutch and brake additives.

I went to buy some this morning at my local NAPA as nearly had a stroke!. They want $66 per 5 gallon pail for combo oil and $56 for plain hydraulic oil.

I'm heading over to the "big city" where Tractor Supply is. $36.99 per 5 gallon pail for the combo trans/hydraulic oil. Right now - that is a real bargain.

BartO · Apr 13, 2012

thank you, that is what i suspected. What I am curious about, is the NAPA oil (Hy Tran) meets a M-2950-S classification, as does the Shell Hydraulic. Could that be a hydraulic rating and nothing to do with the transmission portion?

Bob Bancroft · Apr 13, 2012

Mar. 27 both 15W40 and hy-trans. fluid about $9.40/gal. delivered, by the 55 gal. drum!

LJD · Apr 13, 2012

MS-2950-S is a list of specs for Vickers hydraulic pumps mostly associated with metal-wear protection. I've never bought combo trans/hydraulic oil that DIDN'T meet those specs.

When equipment companies come up with spec #s - it can be a combination of things. Viscosity, acidity, anti-wear protection, temp range, friction modifiers for wet clutches and/or brakes, etc.

Ralph Bauer · Apr 13, 2012

You may want to shop around, there are still places that sell it to you out of the bulk tank , just bring your own container, such as CO-OPs, oil/gas dealer, feed stores, etc. Check around.

buickanddeere · Apr 13, 2012

There is hydraulic oil and then there is hydraulic oil that is wet clutch comparable and/or has high pressure additives to prevent gear wear. Saving a measly $5 a gallon doesn"t compare to the thousands to repair trans clutches, brakes and hydraulic system components. With all the counterfeit fasteners, filters and oil out there. I wouldn"t dare purchase anywhere than the local CIH or JD dealer.

BartO · Apr 13, 2012

Thanks guys, I bought the HyTran. OReilly was $50 a pail, although I went somewhere else. New to this tractor ownership thing, but its been a fun ride so far

northvale-PA · Apr 13, 2012

so, I have a JD 4020 powershift. How is the Tractor Supply 303 fluid quality? I need to replace it all soon and we are talking 16 gallons.

farmer boy · Apr 13, 2012

I see that you got it figured out, but just thought I would add that Walmart has trans-hydraulic fluid that"s $48.95 up here(Canada), so I can imagine it"s cheaper down there.

Anonymous-0 · Apr 13, 2012

We used tellus in wind turbine hydraulic systems. It is an iso32 hydraulic oil not trans/draulic oil. Hytran Ultra is top of the line and has good water carrying ability in the event of condensation. By Hytran or something with equal specs.

JDseller · Apr 13, 2012

Make sure it is compatible to wet clutch transmissions. About fifteen years ago some of the TSC hydraulic oil stated it was equivalent to JD 303/Hy-guard oil. In the real fine print it stated it was not for wet clutches. We got three or four tractors in that the clutch facings had de-laminated from the clutch disks.

So if the TSC oil is $40 cheaper per five gallon pail then you can "save" $120 with the TSC oil over JD Hy-guard ($76.00/ 5 gallon). So you are gambling $120 against the life of the clutch packs in your power shift transmission. How long do you think that $120 will pay a mechanic/parts if the oil causes problems???

I do use cheaper hydraulic oil in older simple tractors (non wet clutches) that don't have selective control valves.( no mixed oil in cylinders) I just don't want to take the risk of causing a high dollar repair on a wet clutch pack.

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