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OLD western plow pump

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molinebob

03-06-2012 18:52:09
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Hey all, I have snow plow on one of my trucks, I believe it is a old western plow, question is the pump on it is getting week, and it runs off of a pulley on the engine, I cannot find one similar to it any where to replace it or a rebuild kit either, all I can find are the electric hydraulic pumps, I prefer to keep it the engine style if possible, any one know where I can find one...Thanks Bob




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ray_woods

03-07-2012 10:19:11
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to molinebob, 03-06-2012 18:52:09  
No manufactures markings on the pump? I brought an F250 to the scrap yard last month.
It had a engine mount PTO pump. Looked like a power steering pump. I saved the pump + mounting brackets etc. I'll look for a manufactures plate on mine.



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greygoat

03-07-2012 06:21:28
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to molinebob, 03-06-2012 18:52:09  
I sold my 1965 Scout, in October, had a Western
plow with a "Monarch" pump. They might still be
available, per, CJinMI's post. However I've
installed the electric clutch pumps and they're
ok, but you'll need a directional valve..two
handeled if you need power angleing, relief valve
and reservior. Northerns reservior are somewhat
large to fit under a hood, but I found a 6 quart
power steering reservior on an old Semi tractor
in a junkyard. A "Saginaw" power steering pump
works ok, but I've got a "Vickers" industrial
power steering pump off a junked Pea Viner, that
has interchangeable pressure springs (Still
available), for my next project. The Vickers has
a ball bearing in the nose for side load on
belt drive.

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molinebob

03-07-2012 16:54:10
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to greygoat, 03-07-2012 06:21:28  
I have the resivor and everything there, just have to find a pump, it has a big resivor, two control boxes, one for the up/down, and one for the angle movement...Thanks for the reply...be looking for a monarch opump now..bob



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RWK in WI

03-07-2012 06:14:09
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to molinebob, 03-06-2012 18:52:09  
I believe many of those old engine driven pumps were "Monarch" pumps. We had them on Jeeps. After Western didn't carry parts we did find a dealer for Monarch for parts but that was years ago.



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CJinMI

03-07-2012 05:57:41
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to molinebob, 03-06-2012 18:52:09  
Mounts ?? over the genny?? Last one we did (62 Chevy!!) origanal couldn't be repaired/replaced. Just found a suitable pump and made brackets. Doesn't have to be high gpm or very high pressure. Dodge/Meyers used a power steering pump, maybe have to add a small res depending on pump you find. Ford L8000 w/3208 Cat had a big res pump, might be a bit to big physically, but another idea to look at. Some fwd cars had pumps w/ seprate res, I was going to try one if I ran into one again. Monarch Hyd (maybe Monarch road equipment?)is still in around I think, out of grand Rapids, Mi it's been along time ago when i worked parts counter (CRS), they made a kit for just this app plus alot more. Check w/ a truck equpment/builder who does plows, dumps ect. The mech who put plows on would often weld the pump bracket to the alt bracket and go from there,seemed to work out good, no problems and he did many of them, some a little custom/different just depending on what he was working on.

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Harold Hubbard

03-07-2012 05:05:23
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to molinebob, 03-06-2012 18:52:09  
Fisher pumps are still widely available, I just bought one in December. You would have to build or buy a mount for it, and the hydraulic fittings may have to be adapted, but I am sure it would operate your plow.



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PJH

03-06-2012 21:40:01
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to molinebob, 03-06-2012 18:52:09  
Here you go Bob. Hold onto your hat!

Paul



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Handyman

03-06-2012 19:36:36
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to jackinok, 03-06-2012 18:52:09  
Surplus center shows some pumps to run off the engine, goto hydraulics- pumps-clutch pumps. they have electric clutches like you find on air conditioning compressors so they only need to run when needed.



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ShadetreeRet

03-06-2012 19:33:27
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to molinebob, 03-06-2012 18:52:09  
Just a thought, depending on the GPM required, do you think it would be possible to adapt a pump for a log splitter or suchlike? They could have a pulley mounted on them. TSC and Northern have them. Like I said, just a thought, and good luck.



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doug in illinois

03-06-2012 19:31:12
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to molinebob, 03-06-2012 18:52:09  
O boy! Seems to me I had a 1971 Ford Bronco set up like that for a short while. Only owned it for about a year. Can't really remember exactly how it was plumbed.

The Bronco was up and down only, no power angle. I do remember that old plow was capable of down pressure on the blade, the cylinder was a true double acting.

The plow pump looked about the same as the power steering pump, but had a larger reservoir.

I would check for numbers on the pump. Maybe if you are real lucky they might match up with a power steering pump.

Probably not much help, but maybe? DOUG

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t jackson

03-06-2012 19:05:18
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 Re: OLD western plow pump in reply to molinebob, 03-06-2012 18:52:09  
i would be interested in buying your pump working or not i do not know where to get parts either call 410-848-4017 tom thanks



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