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Ford 8N diesel - very rare??

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LJD

01-06-2012 10:06:32
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I got a laugh out of this. Owner has little knowledge of his own tractor he's selling.

2nd time he's had it out for sale and I told him both times it's not an 8N. In fact, not a four-speed either. 172 diesel with a 5 speed. 800 series I suppose. It has a live PTO too. Might sell better with a more accurate title.

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Ultradog MN

01-06-2012 14:12:39
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to LJD, 01-06-2012 10:06:32  
Pretty fair looking tractor though.
I see below you made an offer but what is he asking for it? Around here depending on how it runs etc that would be worth around $4K



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oldtanker

01-06-2012 13:16:45
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to LJD, 01-06-2012 10:06:32  
How about the ads claiming to have a 9, 2 or 8N for sale and just from the pictures you know they are wrong, saying a 2N is an 8N or an 8N is a 9N or whatever......of all the people I've tried to correct 1 has said something to the effect of gee I didn't know that, thanks, the rest all got angry.
Rick



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Fordfarmer

01-06-2012 11:45:05
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to LJD, 01-06-2012 10:06:32  
801 series, 861 to be specific. 800 series didn't have diesels.



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LJD

01-06-2012 14:40:50
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to Fordfarmer, 01-06-2012 11:45:05  
My loose reference for Ford "800" series is for any Ford tractor that has an eight-hundred-something number. Obviously, with the front end on it, the 172 diesel, dual clutch live PTO, and the five-speed trans - it's going to be something in the order of an 8-6-1.



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James22

01-06-2012 12:26:46
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to Fordfarmer, 01-06-2012 11:45:05  
Don't agree. Neighbor had a utility, SOS, diesel and thought it was an 801 but now not entirely sure, because that wouldn't agree with the books I've bought. Pretty sure it was an 881. But it was red/white and he had it the same time as our 961. Drove it a couple of times and decided SOS wasn't that great. One job was to run the silage blower and the IPTO was nice, but could have used a few more ponies.

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Fordfarmer

01-06-2012 13:29:56
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to James22, 01-06-2012 12:26:46  
So you're saying it was an 881, and not an 801? '801' is just a series. An 881 is an 801 with the Select-O-Speed transmission with 540/1000/ground speed PTO. An 871 would be an 801 with the SOS and 540 (only) PTO. An 861 is an 801 with the 5-speed and live PTO... etc. Middle number designated which transmission the tractor has.



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James22

01-06-2012 15:28:22
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to Fordfarmer, 01-06-2012 13:29:56  
I've got the Ford sales literature books showing models vs arrangements which ultimately somewhat confuses me. Friend had a red/white 861 which was utility, gas large engine, 5 spd with live PTO. We had both a white 640 utility, gas small engine, 4 spd, non-live PTO and a red/white row crop 961 diesel large engine, 5 spd and live PTO. All agrees with the literature. Now the problems. In the fall 1958 we bought the 961, two row mounted picker and plow. It was an early diesel and didn't have the engine balancers. It failed when running the hay baler either the summer 1959 or 1960 and the dealer brought out a 901 for a temporary replacement. Know the 901 was all white, with a large gas engine. Reasonably sure it was a 5 spd and thought it had live PTO but now not quite so certain. The neighbor's tractor that I discussed on the other post was newer than the 961, likely a 1959 or possibly a 1960. As I stated it was a red/white, diesel utility with SOS and IPTO. Went for the bike ride and after considerable rehashing, have become somewhat convinced the decals said "901" rather than "801". Actually believe it was "901 Select O Speed". It definitely did not say 981 or 881. Since I'm not completely sure about replacement tractor's configuration, can only speculate it might not agree with the literature. However it appears the neighbor's tractor doesn't. Interested in any comments.

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Dean

01-06-2012 13:05:01
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to James22, 01-06-2012 12:26:46  
The 8x0 series was built in the 55-57 model years. There were no 800 series diesels.

The 8x1 series was built in the 58-62 model years (through the 64 model year if you include the cosmetically modified 4 cylinder 2/4000 models).

The four cylinder Ford diesel engine was first offered in the 6/8/9x1 series.

Dean



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dave2

01-06-2012 11:24:50
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to mrpleasant, 01-06-2012 10:06:32  
I think it's just cute as hell.......



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Allan In NE

01-06-2012 11:13:39
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to LJD, 01-06-2012 10:06:32  
Nice looking 8N diesel. :>)

Allan



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GordoSD

01-06-2012 10:43:23
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to LJD, 01-06-2012 10:06:32  
I think he has an 8n, not running at home, and the 851 is just the billboard. Call him and find out.



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LJD

01-06-2012 10:50:28
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to GordoSD, 01-06-2012 10:43:23  
Nope. i spoke to the guy selling it, face to face - twice. i started it up and drove it around. He inherited it from his uncle and had used it few years pulling a manure spreader. To some people - all old Fords are "Ns" and all "Ns" are the same.



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RodInNS

01-06-2012 13:08:23
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to LJD, 01-06-2012 10:50:28  
LOL. Around here all the round medallion Fords are "Jubilee's". Dunno how many times someone has come in the yard and remarked 'Aww, look at the jubilee'.... which is an 860 in this case.
Ya can't fix stupid; I don't even try anymore.

Rod



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old

01-06-2012 10:22:02
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to LJD, 01-06-2012 10:06:32  
Funny how a lot of people have no clue as to what the tractor they own even is. I see that at auctions all the time and one I was at had a Ford 861 but they where calling it a ford 4000 till I spoke up and then the auctioneer said it was posted as a 4000 but is probably a 861



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Polish Mike

01-06-2012 10:09:46
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to LJD, 01-06-2012 10:06:32  
That's not an 8N ...



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Polish Mike

01-06-2012 10:10:56
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to Polish Mike, 01-06-2012 10:09:46  
Ooops... I shoulda read your whole post first before replying !!!



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fordtractorpro

01-06-2012 10:15:13
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to Polish Mike, 01-06-2012 10:10:56  
where is that tractor located ?



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LJD

01-06-2012 10:52:57
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 Re: Ford 8N diesel - very rare?? in reply to fordtractorpro, 01-06-2012 10:15:13  
Oneonta, New York - and I suspect it got sold. For how much - I don't know. I started it up, drove it a bit and checked the PTO. I offered him $1800 and he did not take my offer.



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