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Walmart batteries

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onefarmer

12-14-2011 17:06:51
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Lawn mower I bought spring 2010, JD400, came with a new Walmart batt. It just died so I took it back to Walmart and they said no prorate warranty. Just a 12mon replacement. I looked him in the eye and said Walmart won't be getting any more of my battery business.

Guess I'll go to TSC.




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onefarmer

12-15-2011 06:59:36
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
I have bought about three Walmart batts over the years. Mostly because I needed the get a car running and it was after hours and other places were closed. One lasted for 5+ years, another lasted just over a year and they did prorate it. The third I don't remember so must have lasted ok. I bought my mower as having a new batt and just assumed (I know about "assume")it would be proratable since it was a group 24 with 650cca.

I didn't dress down anyone I just stated I wouldn't be back for batteries. I have really good luck with exide batteries and last I knew they were still prorated.

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oldtanker

12-15-2011 06:46:38
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Don't you just love batteries?

1. All battery manufactures will make a battery with any name you want on it and build it to fit your target price point.

2. You get what you pay for most of the time.

3. While most people use batteries they don't know much if anything about them and how they work (think of all those city folks with a cell phone glued to their ears)!

4. I've run the 29.95 GT batteries for 5-6 years with no problem.....mostly because the GT was used year round so the battery was charged often. Same brand batt in mom's (while she was still here) riding mower 1 year.....but parked all winter. But she wouldn't let me put a batt minder on it cause it would waste electricty.

Rick

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NY 986

12-15-2011 06:13:44
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Never worked for WalMart (Thank God) but I worked in the parts business years ago. Most of those Deere's And Gravely's took a battery classification group 22NF which appears to be an automotive battery but has on average 300 CCA's and a 12 month pro-rate warranty. Most retailers stock a similar size battery but it typically will have near 500 CCA and a 36 or 48 month warranty. Then in nearly the same size package will be a battery well in excess of 500 CCA's and will have a 60 month warranty. Both true automotive batteries having a pro-rate warranty. Usually, there will be visible nomenclature saying what classification the battery in question is. Again, I am no fan of WalMart but unless you know better you may have had the lawn tractor class battery to start with (no pun intended).

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dhermesc

12-15-2011 05:51:35
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Do you think TSC has a better warranty on their lawn mower batteries?



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indianawilson

12-15-2011 05:50:06
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Years ago I loaded semi load at batt factory. watched batteryies being made. Came down line with lable changes only and different warrenty periods. Asked supervisor, any difference in construction?? NO buyer is only getting insurance on long term replacment. His personal advice buy the cheapest battery by price!!!



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indianawilson

12-15-2011 05:49:57
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Years ago I loaded semi load at batt factory. watched batteryies being made. Came down line with lable changes only and different warrenty periods. Asked supervisor, any difference in construction?? NO buyer is only getting insurance on long term replacment. His personal advice buy the cheapest battery by price!!!



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mkirsch

12-15-2011 05:35:26
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
THIS MAKES NO SENSE!

You're MAD at *WalMart* because the previous owner of your lawn mower chose the cheapest no-warranty battery they offer???

That's ridiculous!

I don't give a hoot what you *THINK* the warranty should be. If you didn't buy the battery with the good warranty, you don't get the good warranty, just like anything else.

If I'm missing something, please explain. Otherwise, get a grip!

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Louis Torrans

12-15-2011 04:52:46
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
You told off a minimum wage clerk at Wal-Mart you wouldn't be a Wal-Mart battery customer ever again when all he did was tell you what he got told to do! I'm sure he lost lots of sleep over that!



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El Toro

12-15-2011 04:08:27
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
I have 4 of their car batteries and 3 of them are getting close to 10 years old. One of them is in my old Wards garden tractor. I had to buy one for it that had side connections to clear the hood. I replaced the cables too. If you have enough room I would install a car battery on your tractor. I never had one of those lawn mower battery's to last very long. I use a motorcycle battery on my rotary mower and Troy Bilt tiller. They're Sears Diehard and they're getting old too. Hal

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5020s rock

12-15-2011 01:28:25
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
good stuff--wal-mart is the devil and tsc blows. rural king is still selling and standing behind decent batteries...wont be long b4 they change. as far as a lawnmower, its like 19 bucks, c'mon.



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Bendee

12-14-2011 22:59:28
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
I think the battery on the Bolens has been dead for 12 months, jump start it off the Fergy.
Tried to charge it once but won't hold.
While it starts, not worth buying a new one.



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old

12-14-2011 21:15:37
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Wal-mart O' Reilly Napa lawn mower batteries no longer have much more then a walk out the door warranty on them found that out this summer so you pretty much had no matter who you buy from nowdays



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Stephen Newell

12-14-2011 20:50:29
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
I call Walmart batteries Neverstart batteries.



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El Toro

12-15-2011 06:09:11
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to Stephen Newell, 12-14-2011 20:50:29  
I have 4 of Walmart's batteries and 3 of them are close to 10 years old. A battery needs to be used so it stays charged. Hal



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Goose

12-14-2011 20:26:38
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
You'll notice on Walmart's car batteries, there is a free three year replacement. On the free three year replacement batteries, nowhere does it say anything beyond three years. Because of the price, people assume there is a longer warranty.

Last time I had one replaced, a Walmart employee told me the average life of their three year free replacement batteries is 38 months. In other words, they're expected to croak about two months after the free replacement ends.

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Heavyduty1

12-14-2011 18:57:18
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I must of gotten lucky then. I bought what some call a fake JD mower (L100) at the Home Depot back in 2005. Still on the org battery and no problems with mower itself. :wink: I do keep the battery charged by plugging in the bat mender to keep it fresh during the winter. It was a little slow startin this spring, so this could be it's last year.
P.S. I do suggest that you buy a bat mender. It's payed for itself with 10 batterys around here. It's the one that desulferes(sp).

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Ray

12-14-2011 18:46:24
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
There only 29 bucks,can't expect much of a warranty.



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John T

12-14-2011 18:40:35
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Im NOT any Wal Mart lover myself, but when on the road I do shop there as its so handy, decent prices, buy gas and use debit card for cash withdrawals (saves trips to banks) and even spend the night now n then while in transit safe n relatively secure in their parking lot.

I doubt their lawn mower battery warranty is much different, if any, then other suppliers but I dont have any research to prove that.

On all my years and farms and the truck and tractor business (bought a ton of batteries) I didnt see any huge difference in battery quality and longevity from Wal Mart or TSC or NAPA or Interstate Battery or Batteries Plus etc etc

best wishes

John T

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36 coupe

12-15-2011 03:26:34
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to John T, 12-14-2011 18:40:35  
Any time I see battery on here I know the BS will fly.Ive been buying batteries since 7 bucks would buy a new one.That was a days pay back then.



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John T

12-15-2011 07:08:58
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to 36 coupe, 12-15-2011 03:26:34  
BS flies lol so trueeeeeeeeeeeee. Its like when an electrical or legal question gets asked and everyone and their brother in law comes out of the woodwork (Hey I love to jump right in there also) and all are experts. Oh well not to complain its fun and we all try to help and are entitled to our opinions be they right or wrong

Merry CHRISTmas

John T



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R2D2

12-14-2011 18:37:13
71.1.27.126



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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Go to the Deere dealer and buy the right battery for your lawn mower. 36 month prorated warranty.



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LJD

12-15-2011 06:38:32
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 Deere (Exide) ?? in reply to R2D2, 12-14-2011 18:37:13  
John Deere Mowpro battery - TY23017 has a 90 day replacement warranty and is prorated for only 1 year. Made by Exide. Funny since Sears Diehard and NAPA had to drop Exide due to their poor quality.



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LJD

12-14-2011 18:28:27
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Most commercial, ag, and lawn and garden batteries are 12 month. That's pretty much the standard and not just from Walmart.

Heck, even the huge single commercial battery in my Dodge-Cummins truck only has a one-year warranty because it's commercial instead of standard automotive.

If the battery maker doesn't warranty it, why should Walmart and then lose money on it?



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Dean

12-14-2011 18:06:18
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Most (all?) lawn tractor batteries do not have prorated warranties and NONE are transferrable to a second owner.

Dean



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Butch LeBlanc

12-14-2011 18:03:05
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
A gas station owner once told me that there is only 2 places in the US that makes batteries so they are all the same. Don't know if that is true or not as I've never checked into it. I usually buy at Wallmart also because of the no hasle replacement policy. Butch



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LJD

12-14-2011 18:24:14
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to Butch LeBlanc, 12-14-2011 18:03:05  
Johnson Controls, Exide and Deka are the three major companies in the USA making automotive batteries. Walmart has batteries made by Johnson Controls - same company that makes batteries for Interstate and Subaru (and many other brands).



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Tom-NorthCenTX

12-15-2011 05:29:55
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to LJD, 12-14-2011 18:24:14  
Sorry to correct you, but Deka is not a battery manufacturer, but rather a brand. It is manufactured by East Pennsyvania Manufacturing. They make batteries for all sorts of brands, Deka being one of them. They also make the O'Reilly batteries. Look closely at the top vent construction, little retangular slots at the sides. No refil, check caps at all. I use EPM batteries on everything. Tom



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LJD

12-15-2011 07:31:37
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 What is your point? in reply to Tom-NorthCenTX, 12-15-2011 05:29:55  
East Penn makes many products besides batteries. Deka is one division of East Penn that makes batteries specifically. Not sure what your point is. When I refer to Deka, or East Penn, I am referring to the same thing.

Main address of the company is on Deka Road.



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Mikes806/H

12-14-2011 20:37:14
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to LJD, 12-14-2011 18:24:14  
walmart use to have johnson control now there exide junk



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36 coupe

12-15-2011 03:06:03
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to Mikes806/H, 12-14-2011 20:37:14  
You have that backward.Sears and Walmart gave up Exide and sell Johnson Control batteries now.My truck battery quit at 8.5 years with a frozen cell.It was an Exide.



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Bob Huntress

12-14-2011 18:09:12
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to Butch LeBlanc, 12-14-2011 18:03:05  
While it may be true that only two places in the US make batteries, your friends atatement is misleading.



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LJD

12-14-2011 18:25:38
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to Bob Huntress, 12-14-2011 18:09:12  
Three companies in the USA, at least. More if you count HD non-automotive batteries.



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d beatty

12-14-2011 17:54:08
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
I use to get 1 to 2 years out of them. I bought battery maintainers and get 4 to 5 years out of them. One of the biggest reason they don't hold up is most people don't keep the battery fully charged over the winter.



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dhermesc

12-15-2011 05:56:57
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to d beatty, 12-14-2011 17:54:08  
Agreed.

I take the batteries out the mowers (that I don't use in the winter) and store them in my basement. I also charge them once in the while to keep them from going dead. I can get about three years out of them that way. Letting them sit out in the cold and even freezing solid is what makes them last only one season.



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d beatty

12-15-2011 06:22:09
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to dhermesc, 12-15-2011 05:56:57  
dhermesc I leave mine in all year round.They are stored in the same building with the farm tractor and no heat. They are all on battery tenders. If you keep a battery fully charged it won't freeze.



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LincolnIA

12-14-2011 17:48:44
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
I picked up a junk truck to scap out. It had a bad wal-mart battery in it. I noticed it was still with in the warranty period. I took it in and they gave me a new one, no questions asked.



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DoubleR

12-14-2011 17:42:35
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Sam's club, same as Walmart, took my 5 year old batt. back last summer. I had the original receipt and they did prorate it though. They said it had a 84 month warranty. I have returned batterys there before with no problem. I have purchased all my batterys there for years for that reason. Although I think they only warranty them garden tactor batts for one year.



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36 coupe

12-15-2011 03:12:41
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to DoubleR, 12-14-2011 17:42:35  
Garden tractor batteries will go 5 years if they are kept charged during the off season.Sitting dead for 6 months will ruin the best battery made.



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Bob Huntress

12-14-2011 17:40:17
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
I have nothing against TSC, I often need batteries at 1:00 am, and Walmart hasn't been a bad battery, when you get a big enough battery. I also don't think that TSC has any better a warranty than Wal Mart.



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downsouth

12-14-2011 17:38:34
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Telling a WalMart employee "Walmart won't be getting any more of my battery business" probably made you feel better but I'm pretty sure it had no effect on his day because there are a million more customers right behind you wanting to buy their batteries.
If you do go to TSC, but their best battery. If I recall they have 3 grades of mower batts. Price will tell you the best. If your still not sure, pick them up one by one, the best one weighs about half again more than the cheapest one.
Mowers vibrate so much the batts. pretty well kill them selves. You might try putting a piece of rubber under the battery to take some of the shock out.

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atlarge54

12-14-2011 17:26:41
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
Rural King seems to have the best battery prices around here.



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onefarmer

12-14-2011 17:12:48
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
It is car battery. Should be equivalent to a 6year battery.



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bobia

12-14-2011 17:10:50
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to onefarmer, 12-14-2011 17:06:51  
most garden tractor baii are 1 year sad at the price they are now



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Russ from MN

12-14-2011 20:38:23
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to bobia, 12-14-2011 17:10:50  
The last one I got at L&M was about $20 and they last 5 years, and I don't leave a tender connected to them all winter! The one that bothers me is for my Honda 4-wheeler, they cost about $75 and won,t last over 5 years, and none of the cheaper ones will fit.



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George Marsh

12-14-2011 17:40:08
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to bobia, 12-14-2011 17:10:50  
I think some places it is less than 1 year on mower batteries, like 6 or 9 months.

I get many years out of rural king's exide mower battery.

I've been reading, that if a battery isn't properly charged, under or over charged, it won't last. Some mowers have a very simple charging system consisting of a single diode and no voltage regulator. Perhaps that is why we can only find at best a 1 year battery.

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Captndan

12-15-2011 03:59:44
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to George Marsh, 12-14-2011 17:40:08  
Brand name alone does not tell you anything about the quality of the battery. The manufactures will build a battery to your specs and what you are willing to pay no matter who you are. So in theory the more you pay the better the battery. One reason mower batteries only carry a one year warranty is mowers often don't run fast enough to keep the battery charged. So more than one year is going to take some sort of charger.

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George Marsh

12-15-2011 14:05:46
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to Captndan, 12-15-2011 03:59:44  
The more expensive mowers have better alternators/voltage regulators built in. Also, battery maintaince is very important along with desulfating the battery before it goes bad. Yes, charging the battery, expecially before winter is very important.

I know a person who's diode in the charging system drains the mower battery. That isn't a good thing in the winter, when the battery can freeze.

When you overcharge a battery and cause it to boil, you can do extensive damage to the plates.

Most people do nothing to the their batteries except replace them when they fail. It is possible to extend the life of a battery with the proper charger.

Check out BatteryMinder model #12248 and read all the positive reviews.

George

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DiyDave

12-15-2011 04:38:37
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to Captndan, 12-15-2011 03:59:44  
Yep, you are so right. Another thing to remember, is most harry homeowner lawnmowers don't last longer than 1 or 2 seasons, cause most homeowners aren't smart enough, to run them out of gas, or add stabil, prior to storing them for the winter!



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36 coupe

12-15-2011 11:04:50
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to DiyDave, 12-15-2011 04:38:37  
Stabil is 95% naptha and what does high price naptha have to do with battery life.



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DiyDave

12-15-2011 11:14:24
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to 36 coupe, 12-15-2011 11:04:50  
SEE ,IF YOU CAN FOLLOW ME, HERE, 36, lawnmower gets left with old gas in it. Idiot homeowner cranks, till the battery is smokin hot, and dead. Must be the battery! Get me, now?



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36 coupe

12-16-2011 10:56:35
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 Re: Walmart batteries in reply to DiyDave, 12-15-2011 11:14:24  
Thats a mind reader question.Ask Dell.



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