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3 point dirt scoops

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petemiddletn

11-01-2011 13:25:28
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Anyone with experience with these 3 point dirt scoops? I have alot of gravel to put on my road in various places and shoveling a trailer load with a wooden backhoe is no fun.




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petemiddletn

11-02-2011 09:46:44
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
Warren,

I'm halfway between charlotte and ahsland city. Been through Vanleer couple times.



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SparepartsTN

11-02-2011 10:26:36
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-02-2011 09:46:44  
Pete,
Used to visit a fellow on the corner in White Oak Flat with tractors about six years ago, and knew a woman off Collier Bend Rd. in Jackson until she passed away a couple of years ago. To keep this tractor related, she had a nice medium size Massey Ferguson and some old equipment to go with it. Too far to drive my old 861/4000 with a box blade hanging off the back.
The scoop in Cumberland Furnace is one of the newer yellowish brand ones. He had an 8n, I think, to fix his yard, the scoop is usually back in the brush and I haven't seen the tractor for a while. I don't know him, just used to drive past his place on New Dry Hollow Rd. once in a while.
I'm heading back out to do some more bush hoging on my nine acres of "fields", trying to finish them before they turn to mud.
Warren

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641Dave

11-02-2011 06:58:43
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
Here's mine. I was using it here to back in and collect dirt since I was shoveling it out to build molts around a bunch of trees I planted earlier this Spring.





Between my scoop and my box blade, I moved allot of dirt this summer.


When I was cleaning out the pond I took one of the member's suggestions here and turned scoop around to pick up dirt on the move. I added a good rope to the bucket and once I raised the rope I cut it just long enough to hook to my umbrella bracket on my fenders so that when I lowered the scoop just a bit it would release the bucket and dump. Once it closed I'd simply unhook the rope an hook it on the control arm adjuster until I got another load.
I think I was getting about a 1/3 of a yard per load. Maybe more, maybe less.
Good luck and account for some time and gas. It's slow going but like you said, better than a shovel and wheel barrow.

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Hogleg

11-02-2011 06:19:46
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
I have a Dearborn one here in Southern Ill. Used it a lot until I got a FEL. Been sitting since. Make you a good deal on it...







John



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SparepartsTN

11-01-2011 23:12:42
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
Pete, I am in Vanleer, 8 miles(?). What part of town are you in? If you are close enough I have some blades but not a scoop. If you take 48 to Cumberland Furnace and turn into town after the new bridge, the first old brick house on right, he has a scoop there to use while fixing up his house. He may have some insight for you also.

Warren



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Ralphwd45

11-01-2011 21:03:31
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
my small tractor, and a back scoop has done a lot of work, and still gets used occasionly, however my neck cant take the strain any more. Live 3 pt really helps also.



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downsouth

11-01-2011 20:13:31
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
Handy as they can be. You always hear folks say they are hard or impossible to dump with the trip rope. Most of those folks don't realize how to dump them. When loaded, stop where you want to dump. Drop bucket to the ground, pull rope and lift three point and it dumps. Most try to trip it while in the air and it normally won't dump that way or if it does, it's usually difficult. In my opinion a FEL is 100 times better than a scoop, and a scoop is 100 times better than a shovel. I would say for your need, buy it and you will be glad you did.

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Ultradog MN

11-01-2011 19:18:59
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
If you don't have a loader a rear scoop plus a boom pole will get you by. Very handy tool/s.



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dabees

11-01-2011 19:03:13
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
Best advice I can offer is don't waste your money on one with a trip rope. Those are what they are referring to about hard to dump. I have used old Dearborn scoops with a handle to trip for years with satisfaction. You can litterly trip them everytime with 2 fingers. If you are in n.e.Texas,I have an extra I will demonstrate before you take it home.



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EX 450 Owner

11-01-2011 18:32:47
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to lyle niemi, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
Ray:

The last time I used a scoop was in about 1970 on a WD Allis with a 3pt conversion, if I remember correctly that would not dump either unless you lowered the scoop flat on the ground and then pulled the trip rope and hold it tripped while you raised the arms and then it would dump.



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RayP(MI)

11-01-2011 18:06:47
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
Using one today - and a couple days before. Hauling gravel to fill in a few hundred feet of farm lane where trucks cut in. Can back into gravel pile, and load easily. But have to hop off tractor to dump, as can"t release by pulling the rope. Works OK with Massey 180, however geometry on Farmall 200 with 2pt/3pt conversion just isn"t right. Main problem I"m having right now is small capacity. Spending a lot of seat time to move a small amount of gravel. Just the cat"s meow for hand rock picking - can lower to ground level, roll larger rocks in, back up to edge of field and dump without handling rocks twice. Not a real good substitute for a good loader tractor with large bucket, but works for me.

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Popinjohn

11-01-2011 17:32:59
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
When I had a bunch of tractors with tricycle front ends, I used the dirt scoop I had for moving tractors.
With the scoop in the reversed position and bolted solid so it couldn't dump, I would back up to a dead tractor and slip under the front wheels, chain the front end to the scoop frame, pick up and jockey the tractor around the yard as needed.
Only took once to find out don't use a Ford for the live tractor.
720 Deere with front end weights worked well.
I had tried moving dirt or gravel with the scoop and concluded there had to be a better way.

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EX 450 Owner

11-01-2011 16:48:17
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to Jesse in WI, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
In the late 50ís I worked for a building contractor that dug some of the basements and did all of the back fill plus all other earth moving with a 8N ford (Sherman under drive) with a rear reversible scoop.
In sod and hard dirt we would plow first, you would drive with the front wheels off of the ground a lot when the scoop was digging in.
Depending on what type of scooping you are doing you need to have the correct pitch on the scoop edge so the top link setting is very important.

Scooping is slow and not economically feasible for a contractor these days but hey; if all you have is a scoop you can move a lot of material if you donít need to lift it very high and have plenty of time to do spend doing it.

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showcrop

11-01-2011 16:40:27
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
If you were to order it from me I would tailgate spread it so that all you would need would be to touch it up with your chinese gradall. You wouldn't even need your mexican bulldozer



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Dean

11-01-2011 16:35:12
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
I have one and use it regularly..

A hydraulic top link is the cat's meow when using a slip scoop or box blade.

Dean



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gun guru

11-01-2011 14:42:36
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
I have one. I like it, but.....It cant pick up dirt in any real quantities. It works well for doing boulders and hauling firewood. I was way cheaper than a FEL, which is 10 times the rear scoop.



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Jiles

11-01-2011 14:10:33
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
I have moved many tons of material with one, before I got a front loader bucket. Sure beats a shovel!!



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johnw (OR)

11-01-2011 13:51:14
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
If you have to have gravel delivered a good dump truck driver can spread it so you have very little blade work to do.



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jackinok

11-01-2011 13:43:11
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
they work well but are slow.on my farm roads,i like to have gravel delivered in a belly dump trailer.having driver lay it in a long strip up center of road makes it pretty easy to spread if thats an option where you are.



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thurlow

11-01-2011 13:43:05
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
Used one a LOT back in the '50s..........mostly on a 30 Ferguson and a M-F 35; compared to a Mexican dragline, they're wonderful.



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GWG gnajdliowatelecom.ne

11-01-2011 13:38:39
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
I had one years ago.on a 8N Ford,,,they will move a mountain if you have the time,,,,I liked mine for small jobs...yes



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wlc1

11-01-2011 13:37:46
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 Re: 3 point dirt scoops in reply to petemiddletn, 11-01-2011 13:25:28  
i have one. it is as handy as a pocket on a shirt.the reversable ones are more convient,you can drag over your load or back into the load.



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