rear tractor tire mounting?

lti · Oct 2, 2011

Have a 18.4 by 38 . Its old, bought at a consignment sale, about 15 years ago looks almost brand new. been in shed all these years. Side walls no breaks just wx cracks I call them.Have it on tractor now cant get the last 1ft of tire to pop out. Taken it loose twice greased it, yes with a grease gun inflated to 30 lbs thats all the higher I will go had one blow off the rim. Run it up and down road, and using it now, last couple of weeks, but it wont pop out that last little bit. Could it be the tire is just mis made any ideas. thanks

dozer603 · Oct 2, 2011

You may need to heat it a little tire must have been sitting on that spot in the barn and it just needs to be wormed up or just keep running it and see if it comes out. keep us posted this one is interesting.

old · Oct 2, 2011

Well for one thing using grease on rubber is bad very bad. It makes it soft and also makes it sticky. As for not being able to get it to pop all the way on you need to break it down then make sure you have it well centered to the rim so as not to have it pop up in just one area but all the way around. As for what to use as lube on a tire dish soap and water is the only thing you should use unless you buy the high $$ tire compounds

504 · Oct 2, 2011

Break it down again and get the grease off before it swells the bead any more. Rubber and oil do not go together. Use dish soap straight, and hit the rim with a 2# hammer as you air it back up, watch the tire so that it come up evenly, sometime one side comes up to far. With a good rim and tire I would go to 40# and not think anything about it.

lti · Oct 2, 2011

Did the soap and have some real good bead soap also on the first and second try. Used a sledge on it repostioned it on rim. Should add the grease was the last desperate attempt even used a pry bar to try and help the low spot out but no good. The tire guy in town says he taking them all the way to 75lbs they also had one of our split truck rims blow apart on them a couple of years ago did have it in the cage. If this doesnt go have to look for another one maybe it will pop out tonight.

lti · Oct 2, 2011

Yes it was leaning on this area probably 15 years?? never moved, back in the cornor. We have had a couple nice sunny days let it set in the sun all afternoon thinking on the warm up idea.

oldironman · Oct 2, 2011

Run about 10 pounds or less so the tire looks about half flat and run it on the tractor back and forth and it should pop out.

lti · Oct 2, 2011

Should add greased the "rim bead area "plenty of grease on this one.

If it doesnt move will have to try a different one. Probably why it was at the consign sale we have 3 of them all in the same pile. They all look the same narrow in one section.

lti · Oct 2, 2011

Did that once on first attempt but going to retry that.thanks

huntingreen2day · Oct 2, 2011

I have the same problem with 2 brand new front tires I am trying to mount on JD M cast rims. I have aired them up to 70 lbs. Neither tire will pop completely out against the rim in a section about 8 inches long. I aired one up tight and set it out in the hot sun and it popped the tube. I have used dish washing soap straight out of the bottle. WD 40 nothing has helped.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 2, 2011

Yep,,Had that same problom,,,Bot 2.. 18.4-34s that were ooold but had never been mounted,,,took over a year or two to seat them,,,It was just like they had shurnk or something...I see they are now starting to weather check real bad befor there time,,,Dident pay much for them at a sale,,,get what you pay for i gess

Duner Wi · Oct 3, 2011

Use a grease similar to this and start over. It will go on.
http://www.niagaralubricant.com/2537TigerPaste.htm

Tony in Mass. · Oct 3, 2011

If this is to do a day's work, or even a couple hours work, the bead will pop itself in the first few rows, and be well set a few rows later. For that matter, just go down the road and back a few times..

hd6gtom · Oct 3, 2011

grease is a no-no, dish washing soap is NOT slick enough. break it down and get all that grease off the tire and rim. Go to a local farm tire shop and get some tire lube from them. 100 times slicker than dish soap, and will not destroy your tire like grease will.

bill mart · Oct 3, 2011

They had a major fire awhile back,they still open for business? bill in western ny.

lti · Oct 4, 2011

Well the tractor was sitting out today in the sun(IH 1026). As "huntingreen2day" suggested didnt have that much air in it about 25lbs. An hour or so later looked over at it and it was slumped to one side. Wouldnt hold air to get in shed. The tire had sucked itself right off the "rim ledge". So got tube out, found one hole about 1/4" Dont know if hole came from rough rim.rim is pretty good shape or did something poke through tire. Patched tube seems to be holding air. Tire didnt fair to well, took that off with a sawzeall.

Now looking for another tire.

John_PA · Oct 4, 2011

I wonder if the tube was pinched between teh rim and tire bead and that was holding it from popping out.

RuGlyde from napa is $14 for a gallon. It is Glycerin based and slicker than dog snot on a door knob.

lti · Oct 4, 2011

We have done that over the years John(piniched a tube) so really watch for that and we re mounted it 3 times and watched very close for that to be happening. Got a whole bucket of the tire soap and used alot of it the first couple remounts.

John_PA · Oct 4, 2011

wow, maybe I didn't read yoru post well enough. sounds like you covered all teh bases, but were a victim of an old tire.

Hope you can find a good one. A new one is pushing $800 these days. Scary!

lti · Oct 4, 2011

No problem John. The only thing else would have been have the local "pro tire guy" try it. Been doing it 30 years. But I think I know him well enough and know what he would have said.lol I know, tires, tubes, and even patches sky high. Got this tube at tractor parts place good shape for $25 hope the one patch is all it needed. New tube is around 100, about 3 years ago 45 or so. Got an ad on craigs and will talk to the local guy, maybe has some used ones or knows where to get one and always the used tractor parts place where the tube came from.neighbor just put a firestone on 1200.

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