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Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011

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Will Herring

09-24-2011 18:10:57
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Here are some photos I took today of the Prairie Land Steam Show / Fall Festival Heritage Days in Jacksonville, IL...

EDIT: Some video I took of the tractor pull:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNFXOoXeKhk

Wide shot of the tractor area:



Individual tractor rows:

















Narrow front D-17 in the tractor pull (hoping to get some video up of the tractor pull in the next couple of days, so stay tuned on that):



Some pictures of the "four wheel drive" Allis Chalmers modification (WC in the back with a WD in the front)... Also, the train and an old corn picker in the background.







The new bandstand:


This post was edited by Will Herring at 07:24:01 09/25/11 2 times.

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Will Herring

09-29-2011 15:48:52
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to Will Herring, 09-24-2011 18:10:57  
Found a youtube video of the two tandem Allis tractors that you can see at the start of my tractor pull video and in my pictures in the original post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duu1IViw0PE
This post was edited by Will Herring at 15:49:09 09/29/11.



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Will Herring

09-25-2011 19:35:58
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to Beatles65, 09-24-2011 18:10:57  
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The show is always the last full weekend in September. As long as the weather holds, it is usually a fun time.

I don't know if I ran into centralilbaler or not. I don't know what they look like, so we could've walked right past each other and I wouldn't have known it. But I was at the tractor pull from when it started for about an hour and a half, left when they were changing the sled over (technical difficulties, maybe?), and came back and watched for another hour.

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Will Herring

09-25-2011 10:25:19
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to Will Herring, 09-24-2011 18:10:57  
As an Allis Chalmers owner myself, the one thing that drives me nuts... Look at the John Deere row -- they're all the same green. Look at the Farmall... They're all the same red. Now look at the ACs. They're all like one of four shades of orange... And it is to the point where when I look at one, I don't know which color is truly the correct one (unless it is like mine and has not been repainted).

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Will Herring

09-25-2011 07:27:15
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to Will Herring, 09-24-2011 18:10:57  
I uploaded some video I took of the tractor pull (and edited together). I didn't get all the tractors, but tried to make the video a composite of several different types of tractors in the pull.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNFXOoXeKhk

That home made tractor, I have seen two like it at the show in recent years. One consists of the front wheel drives off of both AC's and two hydraulic rams to steer the front tractor and you drive from the back. This one, as you said, you drive from the front.
The little blurb on the hood of the tractor says that many different tractors were used for the front (and that sometimes they hooked up three tractors in a row when it was really slick and muddy -- no idea how that worked), and that was actually used for many, many years. The whole thing is bolted together really solid, so I don't see the fear of the rear one jumping the front one, but as to the jack-knife thing I do not know.

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kruser

09-25-2011 15:54:47
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to Will Herring, 09-25-2011 07:27:15  
Will,
Thanks for the video - recognize that sled and the guys running the pull. Had a flyer for that show from the state fair BUT forgot about it!

You run into centralilbaler?



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centralilbaler

09-25-2011 05:17:27
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to Will Herring, 09-24-2011 18:10:57  
was a great show! I was glad i showed and attended



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Straw Boss

09-24-2011 21:14:38
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to Will Herring, 09-24-2011 18:10:57  
The WC/WD 4WD arrangement looks dangerous to me.

What am I missing here. Looks like you steer with the front tractor instead of cylinders between the tractors, so what keeps it from jack-knifing if the front machine has trouble of any kind? If you have to throw a lever or something then I guaratee you whatever happens will happen before you can react.

Same goes with verticle movement. There should be a "third link" so to speak like a three point hitch system to keep them both level. What keeps the rear tractor from crawling up the azz of the front tractor if the front end gets too high or too slow on the front tractor?

I definately wouldn't want to sit on the front tractor for these reasons but it doesn't look that way on this one. Sorry to be so critical.

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John (C-IL)

09-25-2011 07:12:42
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to Straw Boss, 09-24-2011 21:14:38  
I've seen that setup in person and had the owner explain it's workings to me. He has all of your concerns covered. The rear tractor clutch and throttle are controlled by the hydraulic levers beside the seat. It you notice the frame is bolted to the front of the rear tractor, no chance of it "rearing" up. He pulls a 4 bottom plow, were the front tractor to lose power the rear one would be hard pressed to keep everything going.

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Straw Boss

09-25-2011 08:31:17
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to John (C-IL), 09-25-2011 07:12:42  
Makes sense I guess but sure looks rickety.
Some of those guys sure had an engineering itch to scratch. Had I a heated shop I'd probably cobble a few things together myself.



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kj(seil)

09-25-2011 08:28:54
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to John (C-IL), 09-25-2011 07:12:42  
my dad had a very similar set up with 2-ih m"s front had live hydralics and pulled 5x14s in 3rd gear anywhere sometimes in 4th , I never got to plow with it but did pull sqadron hithed 10 ft dics. There were more tandems in that area wierdest was a 720 jd and a case 400, quite a sound a pair of F-20s but M"s and SM"s most common Brocton, il area kj



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Will Herring

09-24-2011 20:40:36
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to rlp in co., 09-24-2011 18:10:57  
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Yes -- it was Friday, Saturday, and still is going on Sunday. Part of it is the tractor show, the other part of it is a giant flea market. I managed to snag a new gas cap for my 1952 WD today.

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It is nice that people are saving these things from the scrapyard, for sure.



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lblock

09-24-2011 19:48:31
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to Will Herring, 09-24-2011 18:10:57  
Im in spfld what the heck is it still goin?



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55 50 Ron

09-24-2011 19:22:02
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 Re: Prairie Land Steam Show Pictures (Jacksonville, IL) 2011 in reply to Will Herring, 09-24-2011 18:10:57  
I sometimes see posts on YT Mag saying "we need to save the old tractors, because we're going to need them someday". Well after realizing (from all the pictures of tractor shows that get posted) how many thousands, maybe 10s of thousands of old tractors that show up at these shows and have been sitting in sheds around the country, I don't think we have to worry that too many are being scrapped.

Just go to Red Power Roundup, Two Cylinder Expo, the Case show in Booneville, MO, etc., and many regional shows (websites abound for them) and it begins to boggle the mind. Keep up the good work all you who are collecting and restoring these great machines!!

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