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I would like to get a backhoe for minor things around the farm-no major digging- but I sure don't want a lot of expensive repairs. Now, here's the hard part: how much will I need to spend for an older and somewhat reliable BH. I'm thinking $10K-$15K should get something decent. Some guys say it should 1990 model or newer...What is your opinion? It probably will be a CASE or Deere but I like the old Fords too. Thanks.
 
Got to test run mine for a few hours before I bought it.

It's a 580B case. I have replaced about 4 hoses and rebuilt 5 cylinders. The Perkins deisel in it is a great engine.It burns less than a 1 gallon fuel an hour.

The shuttle transmission is getting soft it it but has been since I bought it.



I paid $7000 about 7 years ago. It ain't pretty but it works.

Gary
 
The old Jd 300/310s were good 'hoes.I've got a little time on a Ford 4500-that was a very good machine.
 
i got a ford 655a . real nice machine. its right in that price range too. it is a late 80s i beleive. justed missed one not to long ago go for 9500 with 4000hrs on it. mine has about 5500. they can do some magor work when you need it. dont really have any problems with mine at all.
 
You should be able to find a very good hoe for that money. With Case I think it could be older than 1990, but I wouldn't go farther back than the D model.
 
Perkins diesel in a Case? Really? 188,207.267, and 336 Case Diesels were the norm until The CD/Cummins engines came along. I have heard of some which had the DB 4/55, but have never seen one in the flesh.



That said a 1970 or early 80's vintage Case is still a machine that a normal farm level mechanic can work on. This would be the B, C, and D series machines. The less add on features the better(extend-a-hoe), less to go wrong.
 
I picked up and old JCB 3CIII last fall. I ran it some last winter when the blower tractor lost it's clutch to fight snow and feed bales. Did a little dirt work and dug about 8 stumps out this spring and did some work for a freind to reduce his LBS per acre yeild of rocks. Other than repair a fuel line and replace the alternator it's been good.....paid 4500.

Rick
 
I was told by the salesman when I bought it from a
dealer, it has a perkins in it. Maybe he was a
rookie?

I don"t know if it is for sure or not.I"ve never had
to buy any parts for it. Whatever it is it runs like
a champ and sips the fuel.

Gary
 
(quoted from post at 13:04:44 08/26/11) I was told by the salesman when I bought it from a
dealer, it has a perkins in it. Maybe he was a
rookie?

I don"t know if it is for sure or not.I"ve never had
to buy any parts for it. Whatever it is it runs like
a champ and sips the fuel.

Gary
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ase backhoes did have the perkins in them
 


What models Exactly?


All as it pertains to the 580 as it was the largest portion of the market, all data from my service manual and from the Case parts site.

CK through D certainly have Case engines. The 580 would have a 188 or 207.

I don't know anything about E

F and G are David Brown 4/55T powered, many wrongly assume that these are Perkins just because they are from the UK. I am thoroughly sick of ignorant people advertising DB's as having Perkins engines.

Newer are Cummins/CD
 
RGMartin I just went and looked at my 580B and the
engine does have a 188D tag on the side of it.

I was just going by what I was told and never
investigated it any farther.

Sorry

Gary
 
I've got a 3500 Ford with loader and hoe on it. The little 3 cylinder motor starts great and runs like a champ. Plenty of power too. Paid $5500 and then put $900 into the hydraulic system. It's a digging machine now. Works great and is real handy around the farm for rocks, stumps, and other situations where digging is required. Sometimes I take the bucket off the front and put a bale spear on for loading hay bales. With the hoe for counterweight and the high loader reach it works great for loading two high on trucks and trailers. For the price you mentioned you should be able to purchase a very nice farm use machine.
 
You should be able to. Our township just sold a nice 1991 ? Case 580 with cab and 4x4 and I think it brought $ 15,000 dealer was only going to give them $ 12,000 for trade in.
I put a sealed bid on it but didn't get it. I was really worried I bid too much after hearing the trade in price !
 
I have a 480D Case backhoe that has 2,700hrs. I bought about 4 years ago, rebuilt all cylinders, changed all Fluids and oil along with filters, and repaired the brakes along with the park brake. Burns no oil and has very small hydraulic leaks.
I will soon be finished with it, as I have moved and will be selling it for 12.5K.
Worth every penny!!

BTW--Be sure and check the brakes on Case Backhoes, and be leary of any machine with major fluid leaks. Match hours with machine condition.
 
I"ve had a 1970 Ford 4500 3 cyl gas for about 6 years. Paid just over 6k, replaced all hoses and some bushings on the stick. It"s gear drive, did not want the first ones with torque converter (model 555?). Similar machines advertised for the same money lately. Suits my needs fine.
 
I bought a 580C three years back to do a house project. I paid $8500 for it. It isn't the prettiest thing but it runs good and has been very dependable.

There are LOTS of Case hoes around and usually a bargain can be found.

I somewhat agree about buying a newer model since it is newer, but they have lots of electrics on them. Thats great when they are working but expensive when they don't. A good example is the joystick controls for the hoe. Nice, but mine just has some levers and rods to the valve body. Very dependable. One BIG thing to look at is the tires, they are expensive. I have replaced both backs and one front on mine. Thats about $1000. OUCH!
I ran into the guy I bought mine from and he said he regrets selling it now. He bought another newer model, a Super K I think with a turbo. He said he has had lots of problems with it, including replacing the turbo.

They are very handy to have. You won't believe the things you can do with one. I have paid for mine and am thinking about selling it but man I really hate to.

Joe
 
i bought a Deere 210C loader backhoe for 7 grand from a dealer in pa. good machine built in 1987 or 88 i believe so not terribly old. had a few loose pins i had to replace in the backhoe but no big deal. for the money you are talking you should be able to find a very nice machine, if cab is not a big deal which it wasnt for me, then that keeps the price down, and newer machines all have a roof and rops anyhow, just not enclosed on the sides. also 4wd is not a necesity, and going without keeps the price down too
 
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