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Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle.

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There are good rust-free older diesel trucks around if you search around. Whether you want one or not is a different story but they certainly are more fuel efficient then gassers when pulling trailers.

I drove a 2002 2500HD ton Chevy with an 8.1 pulling a gooseneck horse-trailer. Got 8.5 MPG on the highway. The owner told me when he pulled a 14,000 lb. trailer he got 5.5 MPG.

My 1994 Ford with a 7.3 turbo IDI pulls the same horse-trailer and gets 12 MPG. Gets 17 MPG empty.
Paid $3300 for it 12 years ago. Rust free from Colorado and now has 240,000 miles on it.

My 1992 Dodge with the 12 valve 5.9 Cummins pulls the horse-trailer and gets 13.5 MPG. Gets 20 MPG empty. Paid $3500 for it 8 years ago. Rust free from northern Maine from a place that never uses road-salt - just sand. Has 160,000 miles and runs perfect.

My 1983 Suburban with a 6.2 non-turbo diesel pulled a 5500 lb. trailer 2000 miles and got 13.2 MPG. Not great - but it is an old tech diesel and still better then most gassers could do pulling the same weight and wind-resistance. This was a high camper trailer that acted like a big sail.

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04-23-2012 13:20:22

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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to LJD, 04-23-2012 10:03:36  
No question that even the "light duty" diesels by the big three have more grunt and better MPG than most gas engines.
However, plow in the added initial cost, added parts cost, added diesel cost over above the high price of gas, and you really need to be hauling often or for a living to make a diesel make sense.
Many times it more of an ego thing, a sound thing, a smoke thing, a bragging rights thing.
All of those truly meaningless "things" come with a hefty price which is always higher than any true value.

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04-23-2012 10:21:55

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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to LJD, 04-23-2012 10:03:36  
Not easy finding a pre-common rail injection diesel that isn't rusted through around here.

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04-23-2012 10:32:13

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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to buickanddeere, 04-23-2012 10:21:55  
Not easy to find in my area either. None of mine came from NY.

I'll also assume that older diesel trucks bring more in Canada then in the USA. I met several people with older diesel trucks in Ontario and Québec. When I told them what I paid for my trucks, I think they figured I was pulling their legs. I was sitting in a transmission shop in London (Ontario) when my E40D trans sprung a leak in my 94 Ford diesel F250. An old guy came in who also had a 94 Ford diesel F250. He bought his around the same time as me with more miles and paid more then twice what I did. Heck the repair parts cost more in Canada. A lot more. The guy in the shop told me there were a few parts I ought to get once I was back in the USA. He said they'd be 30% more if I bought them in Canada. I know at the time, the exchange rate was about even.

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