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Re: Trouble in Kentucky

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The tractor vet

03-14-2012 17:18:38
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Many years back here in the Buckeye i was west bound on I 76 just west of the turnpike entrance i was headed for Cleveland and the salt mine to load a load . I was empty i had the tarp on the trailer and i had Bows to hold the tarp up as back then this was not a common thing on dump trailers . I ran with the tarp on 90% of the time . I was in the left lane passen a line of trucks pulling the grade when i hear on the C B that there is a east bound bear just east of Baylie Rd , i check my speed and i am doing 55-56 mph, the traffic i am passing is doing about 52-53 MPH. so i am not smoken past them and i am not in any big hurry to get to the salt mine as it will be backed up till after 10:30 in the morning . Well Mr. Bear see's and i am looking at him . Next thing i hear is hey that bear did a flip and is west bound with the hammer down and lights ah going. Here he comes wright on my trailer and my scanner lights up and i hear my trailer plate Number being radioed in and he says that he would be on the side with me just west of Baylie rd. Well first off i could not get over as nobody would let me in So down the road we go till i could get over and when we got stopped here he comes with a attitude , wrong thing for him to do with me , first thing out of his mouth was give me your driver license registration and BILLS. So i hand him everything BUT BILLS He start to get real nasty with me and asked again for my BILLS and i looked him in the eyes and just shook my head no , he about flipped out and said give me your bills NOPE i said , well we are going to weigh you . OK i said go call 23-24 ( the call sign for the portables . How do you know there call sign ??? Give me a break here i have run BUCKET for 15 years . 23-24 was down by the turnpike entrance on the east bound lane with a old iron hauler setting on the scales when i went by . This bear and i went round and round for a good while and i kept watchen my watch as there is a little knowen law that they can only hold ya for one hour and fortyfive min. Time was getting short for him and he calls the scale wagon to see hoiw much longer they were going to be . Oh guess what that old iron hauler had to shut his truck off so the could weigh him because it was shaking so bad and when they got ready to turn him loose his truck would not start and it lost all it's air and was setting on the scales DEAD . I had this bear so mad he was beet red and swearing at me and for what ever reason he hit the side of my trailer with his clip board and turned and glared at me and said YOUR EMPTY , hey your the idiot that told me i was over . He threw my licenses and registration at me . Then i asked him if we were having fun as i sure was and just think of how many guys got by him while he had me pulled over.

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willie in mn

03-15-2012 18:06:47
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 Re: Trouble in Kentucky in reply to The tractor vet, 03-14-2012 17:18:38  
T Vet
Not trying to start an argument here. We both have many years experience on the road. The way I did things worked for me, the way you do things works for you, not necessarily right or wrong, just different.
In a similar situation i would have told the trooper that I was running empty & offered to open the trailer to show him. No cause for temper flareups & all done in 30 seconds.
Willie

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03-15-2012 20:22:55
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 Re: Trouble in Kentucky in reply to willie in mn, 03-15-2012 18:06:47  
well first off when you are behind and empty Coal bucket that weighs in at 9200 lbs and at the time going down I 76 the trailer was bouncing on the pavement and making the normal EMPTY bucket sound . BUT the fact that when i did ask him how he knew i was OVER LOADED was what he said . And his words were WELL I LOOKED ACROSS THE INTERSTATE AND I COULD SEE YOUR DRIVE SPRINGS SAGGING. Since my tractor had a DAYTON 4 spring there is no way in god's green earth you can see the springs unless you look down BEHIND the drive tires. Over here IF you run a coal bucket you will be stopped empty or loaded and hassled , they WILL even try and B/S you on some non existing law . I am sorry but that is NOT going to fly with me . I use to carry a copy of the Ohio Revised traffic code and i would use it when needed . I had the pleasure of growing up with a dad that was a Buckeye bear and believe me i learned from my dad on what is wright and what is not . (1) a overweight is NOT a legal stop . First THEY MUST have probable cause , Speeding reckless driving a safety violation . As i had asked him if i was speeding , did i have any lights out was i driving recklessly and di he see any safety violations and he said NO . Well then now i have him for and unjust stop . Just like over here they can only take you 3 and 1/2 miles to a scale not 3 3/4 back then they could not take you to a scale off your PUCO authority range , UNLESS they placed you under arrest and made you a ward of the state and ordered you to drive the truck to the scales , that way if something did happen YOU WERE NOT AT FAULT the state was . I could go on about what you can and can not do. I could probable write a book on the days on the road . About all the good bears i met and all the nut cases . I am not a sheep and follow the herd and cower when i do get stopped . One other thing here when you are loaded then yes you have to show your bills , maybe not the real bills but the bills . When your empty any bills you have in that truck are privileged and PRIVET information and those you do not have to show .

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