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buickanddeere 06-20-2011 11:29:26 192.75.48.150 Report to Moderator	"You haul stuff your way and we here in the midwest will haul stuff our way..We must have lots better roads and much less traffic than you do.."" So the laws of physics don't apply to xenophopes? "For a few times a year you dont buy a 3/4 ton or dually with a 10K or 14K trailer" The trailer and truck is either overloaded or it's not. One inspection by the DOT will prove that. Overload anything into the yield point of metal and it will rapidly fatigue and fail. It's not a matter of if, just when. Tires will rapidly deteriate when overloaded. You can't see the failure of belts and rubber inside from the outside. [Reply]   [No Email]
JimEvans 06-20-2011 19:00:13 66.185.0.208 Report to Moderator	Re: 4500lb tractor + 2200lb trailer. 7k trailer or 10k? in reply to buickanddeere, 06-20-2011 11:29:26   There you go calling people names again. Kind of a pot and kettle thing. The 1/2 ton with a 4000 lb tractor is NOT overloaded. You why do you keep bitching? Maybe you should read some of the posts before you respond. [Reply]  [No Email]
F-350 06-21-2011 06:40:02 67.142.179.25 Report to Moderator	Re: 4500lb tractor + 2200lb trailer. 7k trailer or 10k? in reply to JimEvans, 06-20-2011 19:00:13   Well Jim our friend just doesnt seem to get it...When he doesnt get his way he likes to call names...Its been that way for years..He must be related to Plowboy on Newagtalk.. I guess if he had bought a new 4020 JD in the 1960's he would have only pulled a 3 bottom plow with it because a 5 bottom plow would have maxed it out...There must have been (50) 4020's in my area and they all pulled 5x16's...Even the 3020's pulled 4x16's and the 2510;s pulled 4x14's...Yes,our soil is sandy and doesnt pull hard. Its perfectly legal to haul a 4000-4500 lb tractor or load of any kind on a 7K trailer pulled by a 1/2 ton pickup..Its probably the most popular combination that I see...Many years ago I towed with a F-100 Ford with a 3/4 ton rear,heavy springs,and bigger tires...It did really nice.. If a nicely built 7k trailer weighs 2200 and the tractor weighs 4000-4500 then he has 300 to 800 lbs to spare..Every once in awhile I'm that close on my 14K trailer...In fact just recently I was some over that for a 7 mile haul.. A 16 ft trailer isnt as maxed out as a 3/4 ton pulling a 25 ft 14K gooseneck with a 9-10,000 lb tractor on it or a dually pulling a huge tandem axle trailer with 18,000 on it..I see that all the time..You seldom see anyone only using half the capacity.. I have a friend that is a new trailer dealer and he probably sells (5) 16 ft bumper hitch trailers to every one of any other size..His trailers are very nicely built..If you want to go up in size he will gladly take your older trailer in trade as he can quickly sell all the used ones he can get.. The guy asked what it would take to haul a 4500 lb tractor and he was given plenty of answers..If thats all he ever intends to haul a 7K trailer will do fine..If not he can always trade up..Thats what I did..I have way more truck and trailer than I need 90% of the time but I occasionally haul some pretty big loads. [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 06-21-2011 05:54:09 192.75.48.150 Report to Moderator	Re: 4500lb tractor + 2200lb trailer. 7k trailer or 10k? in reply to JimEvans, 06-20-2011 19:00:13   The topic started out as #1 Purchase just enough trailer to get by without any reserve capacity. Not being able to tow heavier loads in the future. And run equipment at or near it max rated limit. Continuous usage at max rated limit is a common factor in area equipment failure. Or #2 For a few extra bucks purchase a hauling system that isn't maxed out. [Reply]  [No Email]
JimEvans 06-21-2011 18:30:14 66.185.0.208 Report to Moderator	Re: 4500lb tractor + 2200lb trailer. 7k trailer or 10k? in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2011 05:54:09   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I think owning an old D8 Cat would be very cool someday. Unfortunately, I only have a 12k bumper pull trailer. I guess I really screwed up by not buying a new KW with a detach trailer. I promise to buy something that will cover all of my future needs next time. You are correct that equipment that is maxed out will have a shorter life than equipment that isnt. Thanks for pointing that out. But I really only need my trailer to last 40 years. I really don't need infinite life. I have seen far more trailer tires blow out from old age than from being overloaded. [Reply]  [No Email]