Can I haul a TO-30 with my 2001 V-6 Ford Ranger and 16 ft t?

knights21701

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I have just purchased a 1953 Ferguson TO-30. I have a 2001 Ford Ranger with a V-6 and a 16 foot flatbed trailer with two 3500 lb axles. I know the trailer will handle the tractor but I am not sure about pulling it with my Ranger. It is a good truck in good condition, I just haven't hauled a tractor with it before. I will be traveling about 100 miles. Can I haul the tractor with the Ranger?

Thank you,
Gene
 
should be able to the to 30 is around 2500 lbs and figure a ton to a ton and a half for the trailer, just make sure to get the tractor loaded for proper weight distrubition, secured with 4 chains and trailer brakes will be mandatory just take your time and drive it easy
 
If you have the automatic transmission and the factory tow package you could have a tow rating up to 5,000 pounds. You'd be close to that weight with your trailer and tractor.
 
What does the owners manual say about your towing capability.

The tractor will weigh around 2500lbs with fluids and the trailer 1000lbs or alittle more depending on how heavy it's built. So say you are going to be around 4000 lbs to be consertative.

I pull the same combination (TE-20 with implements) with a 6 cylendar F150 no problems.
 
100 miles is a hell of a long trip with 5000 lbs and no brakes. Please try to borrow a truck with a brake controller and the proper wiring that is at least a full size truck.
 
Before I got my F250, I used to do the same thing you are proposing. 1995 Ranger 4.0 5 speed manual, 18' trailer, Ford 8N. Total towed weight was about 5500 pounds. The Ranger will not take much tounge weight, check rear axle weight and tire pressures, so properly balance the load. This was a little hard on my clutch when taking off, but if you have auto trans you should be okay. You MUST use trailer brake controller with this application (small truck). They are very easy to install. If you do not use trailer brakes, you will not be able to control an emergency stop and someone will likey get hurt. You do not want that on your conscience. Good luck on your purchase. The TO-30 is a fine tractor. Philip.
 
I saw a half ton pickup truck driving down I-70 in Ohio pulling a car hauler trailer with a vehicle on it. The trailer hitch was almost on the pavement, and he was having trouble going 45 miles per hour. There was a mile of semis and cars behind him switchiung lanes, and trying to pass. Even the fast lane couldn't move because of all the semis and cars changing lanes to get around him. Just something to think about.
 
If you are properly setup, balanced, and use some common sense (lacking these days; see "nnalert") you should be ok. I have a 1979 C20 and a 2001 K1500. I use the 1/2 ton Chevy more and more these days due to I can get 11 mpg loaded on the 1/2 ton and 9 mpg empty on the 3/4 ton. I have properly equiped vehicles (brake controllers and heavy springs along with 8-10 ply tires) and good trailers (8-10 ply tires and working lights and brakes).

Here is a sample of my rig... Weights are approximate minus the trailer (5000 lbs?) I have also towed a JD 350 dozer once 50 miles loaded on friends trailer.

Komatsu PC38UU-2 Excavator (8500 lbs) I have bought more chains and binders since this haul!

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Farmall 504: Loaded tires, weights, and FEL w/ 6' bucket. Also mounted on rear is a homemade landclearing root rake. (8000-9000 lbs).

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This was a 200 mile one-way trip with 8 concrete culverts weighing in at 1200 lbs each. Grand total was (9600 lbs).

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This is a 1998, 2500 3/4 ton with a 5.7 gas towing 11 culverts. (13,200 lbs plus trailer)

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Here is all 3 trucks (200 miles one-way). The other 1/2 ton had 3 culverts which was the overflow from the goosenecks. 22 culverts total.

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Good judgement and good trailer (properly equiped) with good binding will carry you safely home. Keep the speed comfortable for the rig and have a blessed day!

Charles
 
For years I used a '94 Ranger with 4.0 V-6 and tranny cooler to haul a Ford 2N. Truck had brake controller and the trailer was about the same as yours.
 
(quoted from post at 15:27:25 06/09/09) If you are properly setup, balanced, and use some common sense (lacking these days; see "nnalert") you should be ok. I have a 1979 C20 and a 2001 K1500. I use the 1/2 ton Chevy more and more these days due to I can get 11 mpg loaded on the 1/2 ton and 9 mpg empty on the 3/4 ton. I have properly equiped vehicles (brake controllers and heavy springs along with 8-10 ply tires) and good trailers (8-10 ply tires and working lights and brakes).

Here is a sample of my rig... Weights are approximate minus the trailer (5000 lbs?) I have also towed a JD 350 dozer once 50 miles loaded on friends trailer.

Komatsu PC38UU-2 Excavator (8500 lbs) I have bought more chains and binders since this haul!



Farmall 504: Loaded tires, weights, and FEL w/ 6' bucket. Also mounted on rear is a homemade landclearing root rake. (8000-9000 lbs).

This was a 200 mile one-way trip with 8 concrete culverts weighing in at 1200 lbs each. Grand total was (9600 lbs).


This is a 1998, 2500 3/4 ton with a 5.7 gas towing 11 culverts. (13,200 lbs plus trailer)


Here is all 3 trucks (200 miles one-way). The other 1/2 ton had 3 culverts which was the overflow from the goosenecks. 22 culverts total.




[b:342ed25cd0]Good judgement [/b:342ed25cd0]and good trailer (properly equiped) with good binding will carry you safely home. Keep the speed comfortable for the rig and have a blessed day!

Charles

Charles,

Not to put too fine a point on it, but aren't you overloaded in each and every one of those pictures? That is not smart, does not show good judgment and is lacking in "common sense" (and is something that would be expected from a nnalert not a "tractocan").

Have you been stopped by the friendly man in the stylish round hat and taken the short ride on his portable scales yet? It will probably cost you an arm, leg and your favorite 3". Especially if you need DOT numbers and are not inspected / carrying the correct equipment.

jb
 
I had a 99 ranger v6 ( 3.0 ) and hauled a dual axle horse trailer with 1 brake axle.. trailer weighed similar to my 16' car hauler also with dual axles, single brake axle...

I wouldn't call it ideal.. but it will work. On long hills pulling a big thouroghbred back there I could only get 45mph!. but fine on straighaways. Braking was no real problem using electric brakes.. etc.

if you have the 4.0v6.. it should be a little easier on power.. again.. not ideal.. but should be doable if you have the proper hitch category and weight rating..

soundguy
 
Ya know...I hauled for years. 18 foot flat bed trailer (2-3500 axles) weighs 2200lbs) with 5000 lbs of hay on her. NO WAY in sam hill I would have ever done it without breakes on trailer. I pulled with my 92 F150 streight 6, 4.9l 5 speed. The manual transmission helped to. But without breakes it shoved..I MEAN SHOVED..my truck.Good luck.. Ive since bought a 72, 3/4 Chevy 4x4..It goes and toes where know one has gone before..ha
 
Ya know...I hauled for years. 18 foot flat bed trailer (2-3500 axles) weighs 2200lbs) with 5000 lbs of hay on her. NO WAY in sam hill I would have ever done it without breakes on trailer. I pulled with my 92 F150 streight 6, 4.9l 5 speed. The manual transmission helped to. But without breakes it shoved..I MEAN SHOVED..my truck.Good luck.. Ive since bought a 72, 3/4 Chevy 4x4..It goes and toes where know one has gone before..ha
 
Yes, I'd say they are overloaded. It would be overloaded for a 3/4 ton. As for DOTD, I am not to concerned. They target commercial vehicles (including 1 tons w/ tandem dual trailers espscially) in my area. I have FARM TAGS on truck and trailer and only haul for my farming needs. It is legit and have Federal and State tax ID numbers for such. All items in the pictures were for farm related useage only. I'd be hard pressed to believe with in the state, in a farm vehicle, carrying farm equipment that I would raise the eyebrows of the State Police or DOTD or require DOT numbers. Vehicle and trailer are current on inspection.

HAPPY TRAILS,

Charles
 
Thank you so much for all your input. I have found a friend who is willing to help me get my tractor. He has a 1 ton dually and a gooseneck trailer. Thanks again for helping me with the decision making!
 
(quoted from post at 13:24:28 06/10/09) Yes, I'd say they are overloaded. It would be overloaded for a 3/4 ton. As for DOTD, I am not to concerned. They target commercial vehicles (including 1 tons w/ tandem dual trailers espscially) in my area. I have FARM TAGS on truck and trailer and only haul for my farming needs. It is legit and have Federal and State tax ID numbers for such. All items in the pictures were for farm related useage only. I'd be hard pressed to believe with in the state, in a farm vehicle, carrying farm equipment that I would raise the eyebrows of the State Police or DOTD or require DOT numbers. Vehicle and trailer are current on inspection.

HAPPY TRAILS,

Charles

You're right there. Farm tags normally don't need DOT numbers. However, up here in Taxconsin, they started TARGETING farm tagged vehicles and slamming large tickets. It was based on an incorrect interpretation of the farm vehicle exclusion, but many many folks got whacked. So, with the state income dropping, don't expect a free ride or the quick glance to keep on. You may just be the next revenue generating enforcement target.

You may also be "ok" on the weight as some states have an over weight allowance for farm plates. Here they can go up to 32k combined, but it's real "grey" where the requirement for CDL mixes in with that exclusion. I got the regs that apply to the farm exclusion printed out and a copy is in the truck. Just being a good scout. That couple hours to find and print the regs may be a wise investment for you too.
 

Thanks John, I'll check the LA DOTD site and see what I can dig up. I am only going on what fellow "farm tag" owners have told me.

Thanks again,

Charles
 
i drive a 2005 ford ranger (edge) and pull a 16" bumper pull trailer on regular basis. I haul both of my ford tractors ( no, not together ). I have a 8n with 5" shredder that I haul 150 miles about once a month to do contract work. Last time the job needed to be done I loaded my 1955 640 with shredder and hauled it the 150 miles. The tractor with shredder was loaded just right and kept the tongue weigth from being to much. The trailer has 8 ply 15" tires on it and @ 55 psi handled the load well. I had no problem pulling the trailer @ 55mph on farm to market roads. I also have traveled on the interstate and can run about 60 - 65 mph.

Would be alot safer with a larger pickup but like they say: work with what you got.

Larry
 
I can't believe you would post these pictures on here.. There are so many laws being broke with every truck it ain't funny!! This is the reason why they are cracking down so hard on people hauling trailers now. That half ton truck is probably over weight with the trailer alone!! You must live in a very flat area because if you took that truck here in Western Pa or any other area with hills those brakes would be toast in two secounds!! I'm not yelling at you I just worry that things like this go down the road. This is a accident waiting to happen. If you want to haul loads like this you may want to think of a semi instead of a pick up.
 
enjoyed jason's comment maybe all those pa laws are why the majority of truckers dont want to run east of the missisippie river, charles loads are common out here, and some people haul even more weight dot doesnt bother them, they'd rather deal with big trucks the main thing here is driver skill level charles obviously knows how to drive his rig as well as propperly load it for correct weight distribution, some people can haul 7 tons behind a 1/2 ton pickup, others are overmatched when they hook a trailer behind their lawn tractor
 
I guess you really don't want to see a pic of my Cat D4H on a gooseneck behind a 3/4 ton Dodge....
That machine is 24-26K. No brakes on the trailer either...

Rod
 
(quoted from post at 18:40:14 06/11/09) I guess you really don't want to see a pic of my Cat D4H on a gooseneck behind a 3/4 ton Dodge....
That machine is 24-26K. No brakes on the trailer either...

Rod

Now, you have got to be kidding! Around here there are either stupid or real oblivious drivers that will whip around a truck with trailer and then realize that they need to make a left turn and SLAM on the brakes (no blinker). It's a PITA to come sliding up on them wide eyed and white knuckled only to see them flick ashes out the window and continue to chat on the cell phone while steering with a knee.

You would be arrested for felony manslaughter for killing someone while hauling a 35k trailer load with no brakes. So either get brakes or have a real trucker haul your dozer.
 
I'm not kidding... but it's not my truck or trailer either.
Furthermore, it's perfectly legal here as it is registered.... for farm use.
I don't know why he doesn't hook up the brakes on the trailer because is has, or did have brakes when he bought it. Just needs a controller and wiring, but that's his thing.
For what it's worth, you would be very surprised at just how well that truck stops that load.
Do keep in mind that this is fairly local hauling on back roads at fairly modest speeds... not in town. Not in traffic. If it was going far he'd use the float which he does have.

Rod
 
A Ferguson TO-30 only weighs about 2500 lbs (plus any ballast) so I doubt that you'll hurt your truck pulling that on a trailer for a hundred miles. What is the rated towing capacity for the truck?
 
I think it is 4000. From what I have read I think I could do it but would be pushing the limit. I have a friend who has a 1 ton dually with a gooseneck that is going to help me get it tomorrow so I don't have to worry about it anymore. Thank you for the info.
 
(quoted from post at 20:43:20 06/11/09)

For what it's worth, you would be very surprised at just how well that truck stops that load.


Do keep in mind that this is fairly local hauling on back roads at fairly modest speeds... not in town. Not in traffic. If it was going far he'd use the float which he does have.

Rod

You're right, I would be surprised if it stops well in a panic situation!

Keep saying a prayer and lighting candles. Back roads or no, that is taking a large risk. I'm not a risk adverse person, but that would be too much for me. Fines, loss of license, civil and criminal charges should an accident occur. shuddddder! too much for me by far.

jb
 
I have hauled my CA Allis which is about 2800lbs from the Des Moines Ia area as far south as Kansas City and as far north as the Twin Cities with a 98 Ranger that was a 4 cyl/5 speed. As long as you realize you aren't going to go 70 mph and need more time to stop, you will be fine.
 

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