Chaining NF tractor

Kansas4010

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Last weekend I bought a narrow front JD 2510. The plan is to haul it 40 miles home. I intend to use 4 chains at each corner. I have 5/16 G70 chain and 4 separate boomers. On the back I have planned to hook to the drawbar cradle and crossing them. On the front I'm not totally sure about. Don't like the idea of hooking to the pedestal. Thought about seeing if chain will fit behind the weight bracket. They are attached to the frame at least. Still don't care for that idea so looking for opinions.
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The pedastal is strong enough to hook a chain around and pull that tractor out of some very deep mud. It has been done many, many times here in southwest Iowa. Chaining it down to a trailer is a different story though. Best to hook to the frame rails. Maybe right behind the front engine mounts. Should be enough space to drop a chain in between the engine and the frame rail.
 
Hook on the frame rails. You can get a hook on the bottom inside rail then hook to the trailer. I use one chain hooked to the side of the trailer on each side then loop it through the bottom of the drawbar with a binder on each leg the loose chain lays on the floor in the middle. Not enough chain left by the time you get out close to the side of the trailer. I have also use shackles with the chain in the end of the drawbar.
 
I would hook as said to each rail on front . I use a chain on each side off of draw bar. You might want to throw a 3" ratch across front like you talked about using a chain.
 
I would wrap the chain around the pedestal. You are not going to break it off! Most old tractors the narrow front was stronger than the factory wide front.
 
I don't have a lot of experience with NF tractors but was always told they were weaker than the wide front. I'm not about dispute if they are or not without firsthand experience. I am pretty sure that a NF is bolted directly to the steering motor with 4 bolts. A wide front is also bolted to the frame. I would think that'd make it a more durable front end. That's just my opinion though.
 


I bolt a chain hook on each front side rail of my tractors to tie them down in front and thru the drawbar support on the rear 4 chains total.
 
I think you have me confused with someone else. I've never parted out a tractor yet. I gotta admit I am almost tempted with this one. I bought it at a sale the other day with rain pouring down. I had time to look it over today and it's going to need more work and $$ than I had thought. I thought I got it at a good price but it's somehow becoming more expensive by the minute. Don't care for the tires at all and not fond of the NF under it either yet. I don't consider those to be major items but mechanically it isn't as good as I thought.
 
hauled many narrow ft tractors of that size and i have only used two 5/16th G70 chains one over top the ft. tires behind the post pulling forward and one around the drawbar support pulling back . Pull the back down first then pull the ft. Only time i use four chains is on a lot bigger tractors . If the tires are soft then pump them up as soft tires will not set well. if your worried with this then ya can do a what i call a half hitch around the back axles with one chain each side and pulling back with one around the pose pulling forward She will not move if done correctly . Spent a lot of year hauling equipment with some loads getting close to a hundred and ten ton setting on the deck. and never dropped one on the ground , close but it stayed on the trailer and that load had eight 3/8th chains holding it and one chain broke in a panic stop .
 
One chain forward 5/16 Grade 70 and one rear is not heavy enough. The 5/16 grade 70 is rated at 4,700lbs. A tractor that size weigh about 6,200 lbs. to 7,200 lbs.
 
This is true what the DOT says so then if your worried then do the three chain as you now have exceeded total weight . But not many people know how to do this type of hitch . Or you could do it the way KEEN transport make you tie down a skid steer that weighs in at no more then 6500 lbs . they require FIVE 5/16th G70 chains per skid steer . they don't tell you this till after your loaded and you have used up all your 18 chains and binder and spent a half day getting loaded and they come around check your load and tell you oh you need more chains and binders before they let you pull out . so you are forced to BUY more chains and binders off of them . when by law all you need is three , why three ya need two on the machine and one for the loader arms and IF it has a and attachment ya need a chain on that . And it is like this also If a load wants to come off a trailer it is going to come off . I have seen where a D 6 D fully dressed with full forestry pkg. winch setting up on and oil field float trailer turn over on it's side when a back township road gave way on a hill that was held on with four 5/16ths chains hooked to the tracks stayed on the trailer and remained on the trailer while we pulled it back up on it's wheels . I have also seen coils of steel walk right thru ten 3/8 chains . I even had a newer 3/8ths G70 chain let go during a panic stop when a nut case freight hauler came over into my lane and i had to stand on the brakes and one of TEN chains found that weak link and i had a brand new $325000 Gradall try and come off the trailer . Then you look at what these landscapers do like hauling a skid steer and a mini excavator on a short sided trailer with NO chains or like around here Billy Bod excavating that has a small excavator in the 18-26000 lb class with just two chains up over the tracks or even better yet one chain over the top of the tracks and the back of the tracks up against the ft of the trailer and a smaller bucket curled up in the bigger bucket . Now if ya haul that 2510 the KEEN way you would need no less then five chains on it . While playing tractor jockey and going to the big sales you can not believe how many loads of Ford tractors i have seen come in and go out with only one chain thrown up across the middle of the tractor between the gear shift and steering box .
 
You should see how some of the guys at tractor shows and pulls chain down. I have seen a number of loose chains and straps. Some guys say I over kill on chains but I don't want to see the tractor in on top of me or rolling off and injuring somebody else. I use grade 70 3/8 chain with 2 forward and 2 on back. I bind down till tires start to squat.I could throw a 3" strap over frame and clutch housing if I needed.
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Chains are important for sure and they now have laws governing their use by weight of the load. My uncle was an Oliver dealer from the late 1930's. He never once lost a tractor off his trailer. He picked up most of the tractors from the factory as well as equipment. For him chains were to pull a dead tractor onto the trailer. He would drive a tractor up on the trailer, place the gear shift in reverse, Lock the brakes and off down the road. I sure never thought it was a wise way to haul tractors but it does prove that the tractors are not going to get a life of their own and jump off the trailer if driving according to road conditions.

I have hauled tractors from as far away as 1500 miles and chained to the front pedestal and drawbar when needed. I made sure the chain could not let the tractor go sideways both front and rear.
If you wreck the chains will probly not keep the tractors on the trailer regardless.
 
Vet, you've started getting into some pet peeve topics for me - not chaining/tying down a load. Wife and I were in town the other day and ended up behind some knucklehead with an ATV in the bed of his pickup, tailgate down, and not even twine holding the thing in place. He sure was putting a lot of faith in the ATV brakes to hold it there, never mind the possibility of being in an accident.

Sort of like another pet peeve of people leaving their vehicle running while at the pumps. I know it's not as much a problem now as it used to be, but I really wish people would have more respect for the safety of others, even if they have none for themselves.
 
Ok , then you trust the weld on the rub rail spacer that was welded down hill with a mig at a lets build them fast and cheap trailer Mfg. . like the one six seven miles from me . i have seen there handy work . You worry about that coming off the trailer but what about the weights coming off . yep i have played tractor pulling and one thing i never did was leave the weights on the tractor . suitcase weights went on a rack and chain run thru the handles , I H Do nuts went on a weight bracket with a chain over them .
 
Really . I started hauling BIG stuff when i was 17 and hauled the largest dozer at that time and back then there was NO G 70 chain , we used 3/8th's and 1/2 inch chains and back then when we made a move all dozers were hauled fully dressed . I did what ever was needed where i worked , i could run any piece of equipment we had or drive any truck we had or ya my find me getting into a final drive on a dozer or welding . I spent a lot of my time running a D 9 G and when it came time to move it i moved it eight chains and binders on the tractor part one over the blade arms behind the blade and one over the ripper , head lights on blinky light on flags on every corner and down the road we went . And not down the interstate over the old roads as OH we were just getting a good start on building the interstates . we moved pan's with the bowl riding on it's own tires with the tractor part on a short lowboy , pull the steering pins on the neck hook up and air line to the pan's rear brake throw someone long johns flappen off the back and Go , ya had to keep your speed down to under 40 . hauled all of the 641's that way . But yea the stuff ya see people do is unreal , last year down town a guy with a short bed pick up with a cub cadet in the bed with tail gate down pulled away from the light on the hill and self unloaded his Cubby . Not even a tarp strap on it .
 
I don't worry about bars holding weight because they are rated for a way lot more weight than whats on them.There are locking collars and a spring pin through the end of bar in case collar would come loose and brackets are bolted on with high strength bolts with large diameter washers unde nuts. The weights under the WD45 are on a bar that will carry twice the weight that is on there.The hooks that hold it and safety chains are rated at 5,000 lbs each and safety chain is 1,000 lbs. each. If I am pulling from a light to heavy class I throw weights on floor of trailer with 3" strap through hand holes of weights. I have never seen one of these trailers where rub rail or stake pocket pulled loose. Pockets are 1.9 foot apart with a rail spacer in between each pocket.
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If you're afraid of that tricycle front & want to get rid of that tractor just email me. I don't have any green tractors but I do have some narrow fronts that I've used for several years and wouldn't mind adding one to my flock. Keith
 
Plan right now is to slowly fix it back up. Just seems every time I look at it I find something else wrong. It had foamed front tires and it sure was rough riding. I got them pulled off today and put on regular tires. Much better, so I'm going to try out that front for now. Might keep my eye out for a Rollamatic later though.
 
Wife's Dad many years back was working in the field with a tricycle gear tractor when it tipped over on him. He was pinned for nearly 12 hours before anyone found him. Was very fortunate he didn't get killed!

Ya'll be careful on them tricycles. Don't go racing them up and down the sidewalks. *lol* Meanwhile, I'll just stuck with my WF. :wink:
 

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