Hauling Farmall Regular/International Cub LoBoy

Ken Christopherson · Feb 12, 2017

Good morning all,

Just wanted to pick your brains quick about a trip I am making next month. Headed from Minneapolis to Union, MO and then to Muscle Shoals, AL (or vice-versa). I'm headed down with a 3/4 ton Chevy Duramax and a triple axle deckover (bumper/pintle style). My question is how to load the tractors (or which one first, actually) in order to get the best balance.. I know the regular is pushing 4000 lbs, and the Cub (with mower deck) is probably somewhere around 1800 lbs. The regular will be going on backwards most likely. Both tractors will be winched on. Photos of tractors and truck/trailer included.

Thanks for the replies, everyone.

Ken Christopherson · Feb 12, 2017

Ooops. Here is the truck and trailer.

mmfan55 · Feb 12, 2017

To avoid getting to much weight on truck: I would put the lighter one on first: then position the heavier unit on behind where you like how it looks. (Not to heavy on truck where it rides bad : not to light where tail tries to wag the dog )

Tubacase47 · Feb 12, 2017

I would load the cub first and try to put it crossways on the trailer. Then I would position the Regular so that the rear wheels are centered over the center axle of the trailer.

M Nut · Feb 12, 2017

Cub on first, all the way to front of trailer, then regular on the rear. If possible, I'd have them both facing forward, the rear tires of the regular between the middle and rear axle of the trailer.

jon f mn · Feb 12, 2017

If it was me I would do like tubacase says, cub crosswise in front and the other behind. I think if you put the regular on first you will end up with too much on the front. The regular should be fairly evenly ballanced front to rear with no fluid or weights.

rustyfarmall · Feb 13, 2017

You've been given some very good advice. I fully agree with everyone.

Ken Christopherson · Feb 13, 2017

John,

I agree with you, and all of you (trying to respond to everyone's posts in one here).. The Cub cross ways up front was my thoughts as well. My issue was how to get it set up that way. Neither tractors run, so that present a challenge. I'll be using a winch to load both, but I'm not entirely sure how it would do trying to pull the cub sideways after I get it toward the front of the trailer. I know I'll be able to guide it a little by steering, but yanking it the rest of the way might present a challenge. We'll see how it goes when I get down there.

I appreciate all of the replies, everyone! Always good to get some outside opinions.

rustyfarmall · Feb 13, 2017

The Cub should be light weight enough to allow you to get it close with the winch, and then with a helper you should be able to jockey it back and forth by hand. Is the Cub short enough to fit crosswise?

Ken Christopherson · Feb 13, 2017

I'm sure it is. I haven't measured the tractors' length but I am sure it will fit... Tight, but it probably will. We will know when we get down there and give it a shot!

rustyfarmall · Feb 13, 2017

(quoted from post at 11:26:43 02/13/17) I'm sure it is. I haven't measured the tractors' length but I am sure it will fit... Tight, but it probably will. We will know when we get down there and give it a shot!

Another option is to load the Cub backwards, and just as it gets to the front of the trailer, crank the front wheels hard left, or right. Your choice. The Regular should then fit going forward if you steer it into that space beside the Cub. I've hauled a Farmall H and a Farmall M loaded that way on a 20 foot trailer deck.

Ken Christopherson · Feb 13, 2017

Also a good thought - Thanks Rusty!

Shetland Sheepdog · Feb 13, 2017

Length is listed at 99", so, gives you 3" to play with!

ss55 · Feb 13, 2017

I would be concerned about how much tongue weight you carry on the rear bumper of the 3/4 ton pickup for a 900 mile tow. The angle the picture is taken makes it hard to tell, but it looks like the back of the truck is squatting a lot with just the M that far forward on the trailer. If you carry two tractors the Regular may need to be much further back than the M is in the picture to balance the tongue weight. You may not need to worry about turning the Cub sideways as the Regular will not be crowding it forward.

Dumb question: How do others balance a load? To balance the trailer would it work to: 1. park the Cub facing forward at the front edge of the trailer, 2. load the Regular facing forward at the rear edge of the trailer 3. adjust the tongue weight by either moving the Regular forward, or moving the Cub backward to get the desired tongue weight, and then 4. Tie down the load?

Have a safe and pleasant trip!

Ken Christopherson · Feb 13, 2017

I also thought about putting the Cub on first, then bringing the Regular on, back end first, up to the Cub. Adjust as needed. Just one other scenario I have thought about. I won't really know until I get down there and play with it. The M was loaded a smidge too far forward I think, but the truck and trailer handled fine.

I usually try to balance my loads 60/40. 60% of the weight in front of the trailer axles, and 40% above or behind.

Cliff Nelson · Feb 14, 2017

A Hi Lift jack works for shifting the cub sideways(be careful). I assume you are picking these up at different locations? If so, just load the first centered on the trailer so it rides nice then move it when you load the second one. I know my trailer would be unbearable with just the cub all the way to the front. Safe travels.

rustyfarmall · Feb 14, 2017

Keep in mind that most tractors have 60% to maybe 70% of their weight on the rear axle, and 30% to 40% on the front.

Anthony · Feb 16, 2017

(quoted from post at 18:51:55 02/13/17) I also thought about putting the Cub on first, then bringing the Regular on, back end first, up to the Cub...

his is a great plan, especially if the [b:7a2edb1ad6][i:7a2edb1ad6]front wheels of the Cub can fit between the rear wheels of the Regular.[/b:7a2edb1ad6][/i:7a2edb1ad6] Just winch them both on facing backward, the Cub first followed by the Farmall. This would leave you some wiggle room for balancing and avoid attempting trying to jockey tractors sideways or at angles with all flat tires, both loading and unloading.

ASEguy · Feb 19, 2017

A small floor jack under the front will do wonders for sliding it into position.

minnemoblb · Feb 20, 2017

I'd put the cub on first all the way to the front. Maybe angled slightly if needed to route to winch cable under tractor to winch on the regular. Winch the regular on backwards leaving the front of tractor on the beaver tail. Should be more then enough tongue wait with the cub at front that you could leave most of the weight of the regular on the trailer axles. Leave winch hooked to the regular and if at your first stop to check the chains you feel you need more weight on the trk winch the regular ahead some. The M is loaded to far forward I always put rear tires centered between the 2nd and 3rd axle on my tri axle and it rides great. I've found on my 3/4 ton dodge that when I'm trying to balance a load the sweet spot seems to be when I look at the top rail of the bed and it looks level I'm loaded right. Maybe different on a chevy depending on angle of top rail when unloaded but it's something easy to see and works good for me. Safe trip.

J.Wondergem · Feb 20, 2017

I think the back end of your regular is the heaviest, so if it goes front first, you can adjust the balance easier.

Ken Christopherson · Feb 20, 2017

Well, fellas.. I sure do appreciate all of the comments. Sounds like my buddy's trailer is out of commission. He went to pull it out of where he stores it and the brakes are locked up on him. Doesn't sound like fixing it soon is feasible. :-(. The Regular may be a no-go. I'll probably still be venturing down to Alabama to grab the Cub, though. Truck and trailer required for that is minor compared to adding the Regular to the mix.

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