Truck and trailer

Navajo350 · Aug 25, 2015

Would a 22 foot long, 3500lb trailer with an unstyled A be too much load for a 5.3L 1/2 ton?[/list]

kevinj54 · Aug 26, 2015

(quoted from post at 22:31:20 08/25/15) Would a 22 foot long, 3500lb trailer with an unstyled A be too much load for a 5.3L 1/2 ton?[/list]

Ya can't haul an A on a 3,500# trailer!!!!!!!!!!!!

showcrop · Aug 26, 2015

I wouldn't think that you could haul more than a lawn and garden tractor on a 22ft 3500# trailer.

Navajo350 · Aug 26, 2015

(quoted from post at 05:10:17 08/26/15)
I wouldn't think that you could haul more than a lawn and garden tractor on a 22ft 3500# trailer.

That's what I was thinking. According to the manual, I have 500lbs to play with.

mmfan55 · Aug 26, 2015

Guessing that is a John Deere A, not
farmall. Way overloaded on a 3500#
trailer. Also; many of those lighter
trailers have no brakes. A disaster
looking for a place to happen with a
half ton truck.

DR. EVIL · Aug 26, 2015

Does the trailer have one or two axles?

Navajo350 · Aug 26, 2015

(quoted from post at 06:46:43 08/26/15) Does the trailer have one or two axles?

Tandem axle.

What would be a good set up with the three pieces of equipment. 2 are not going to change: the 1/2 5.3L truck and Unstyled A...so what trailer would work?

The truck has electric brakes...but I guess that wouldn't matter if the trailer had surge brakes.

rustyfarmall · Aug 26, 2015

(quoted from post at 06:51:29 08/26/15)

(quoted from post at 06:46:43 08/26/15) Does the trailer have one or two axles?

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Tandem axle.

What would be a good set up with the three pieces of equipment. 2 are not going to change: the 1/2 5.3L truck and Unstyled A...so what trailer would work?

The truck has electric brakes...but I guess that wouldn't matter if the trailer had surge brakes.

You DO NOT want surge brakes.

You DO want at minimum a 7,000# trailer, and you MIGHT want an equalizer type hitch. Your 5.3 will be just fine.

kevinj54 · Aug 26, 2015

(quoted from post at 09:51:29 08/26/15)

(quoted from post at 06:46:43 08/26/15) Does the trailer have one or two axles?

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Tandem axle.

What would be a good set up with the three pieces of equipment. 2 are not going to change: the 1/2 5.3L truck and Unstyled A...so what trailer would work?

The truck has electric brakes...but I guess that wouldn't matter if the trailer had surge brakes.

You need to learn a bit about trailers!!! Also the weight of the tractor.

Trailers are gross weight so trailer weight plus tractor plus chains, binders and whatever else you have on it will equal the max load.

I have never seen a 3,500# tandem unless you have a snowmobile trailer.

Either way listen to Rusty about the minimum requirements

rbhuntn · Aug 26, 2015

(quoted from post at 19:31:20 08/25/15) Would a 22 foot long, 3500lb trailer with an unstyled A be too much load for a 5.3L 1/2 ton?[/list]

22 foot trailer probably weighs 3,500 pounds by itself.

For us to be able to answer your question correctly we need to know a few things:

1 - weight rating of the axles

2 - type of brakes

3 - are brakes on both or only one axle

4 - bumper pull, goose neck or 5th wheel

If you initial post is stating 3,500 pound axles (two or tandem) then you have a gross payload capacity of 7,000 pounds.

A 22 foot trailer will weigh in at about 3,500 pounds itself leaving you 3,500 pounds of load capacity.

TractorData states that a JD A minimum weight is 3,783 pounds so trailer will already be overloaded before you add chains and binders for securing the load.

If the trailer comes with the 5,000 pound axles or 7,000 pound axles you should be good.

Electric brakes are best. Plunge brakes work good if the system has been properly maintained and they have the bypass installed to not brake when backing up.

My suggestion get a trailer with electric brakes and a minimum if 5,000 pound axles.

Math comes to using 5K axles:

2 x 5K axles = 10K gross weight rated trailer
Trailer is 3,500 pound (approx for a 22 footer)
Load weight max of 6,500 pounds for load and securing items
JD A at 3,783 leaves you 2,717 pound of extra payload capacity.

If you take the max a JD A can weigh at 5,228 pounds then you still have 1,272 of extra payload capacity minus chains and binders.

Personal opinion is buy the heaviest made trailer with the heaviest axle rating you can afford and then DO NOT overload it.

The 5.3L will do just fine as my friends has one in his 2012 1500 Z71 and we have towed about 10K behind including trailer weight. Trailer was a 16 foot tandem 5,200 pound axles with e-brakes on both axles.

Just my 2 cents

Navajo350 · Aug 26, 2015

(quoted from post at 13:29:07 08/26/15)

(quoted from post at 19:31:20 08/25/15) Would a 22 foot long, 3500lb trailer with an unstyled A be too much load for a 5.3L 1/2 ton?[/list]

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22 foot trailer probably weighs 3,500 pounds by itself.

For us to be able to answer your question correctly we need to know a few things:

1 - weight rating of the axles

2 - type of brakes

3 - are brakes on both or only one axle

4 - bumper pull, goose neck or 5th wheel

If you initial post is stating 3,500 pound axles (two or tandem) then you have a gross payload capacity of 7,000 pounds.

A 22 foot trailer will weigh in at about 3,500 pounds itself leaving you 3,500 pounds of load capacity.

TractorData states that a JD A minimum weight is 3,783 pounds so trailer will already be overloaded before you add chains and binders for securing the load.

If the trailer comes with the 5,000 pound axles or 7,000 pound axles you should be good.

Electric brakes are best. Plunge brakes work good if the system has been properly maintained and they have the bypass installed to not brake when backing up.

My suggestion get a trailer with electric brakes and a minimum if 5,000 pound axles.

Math comes to using 5K axles:

2 x 5K axles = 10K gross weight rated trailer
Trailer is 3,500 pound (approx for a 22 footer)
Load weight max of 6,500 pounds for load and securing items
JD A at 3,783 leaves you 2,717 pound of extra payload capacity.

If you take the max a JD A can weigh at 5,228 pounds then you still have 1,272 of extra payload capacity minus chains and binders.

Personal opinion is buy the heaviest made trailer with the heaviest axle rating you can afford and then DO NOT overload it.

The 5.3L will do just fine as my friends has one in his 2012 1500 Z71 and we have towed about 10K behind including trailer weight. Trailer was a 16 foot tandem 5,200 pound axles with e-brakes on both axles.

Just my 2 cents

That's worth a little more than 2 cents, thanks for your time.

Navajo350 · Aug 26, 2015

The trailer weighs 3500# and each axle supposedly 7000#.

kevinj54 · Aug 26, 2015

(quoted from post at 17:34:19 08/26/15)
The trailer weighs 3500# and each axle supposedly 7000#.

Did you even read my post above???

It seems you are not getting this trailer loading stuff.

I am out of this one.

MSD · Aug 26, 2015

That's a pretty light A. Maybe an unstyled one? Our puller one weighs in at 4250 with pressed steel wheels and some cutting here and there to get it that light.

rbhuntn · Aug 27, 2015

(quoted from post at 14:34:19 08/26/15)
The trailer weighs 3500# and each axle supposedly 7000#.

With 2 7k axles you are good to go to haul a JD A even at max weight.

Make sure you get good chains and ratchet booms to secure it with.

Dick L · Aug 27, 2015

It would be a trailer much like this one. It weighs 4000 pounds with two 7000 pound axles. It is a pintle hitch with electric brakes. I have not had it behind anything but one ton pickups. I would think that a 1/2 ton would be a bit light unless it had added springs and higher load tires. Tires that come on a half ton truck will fishtail like crazy at any highway speed without a load pulling that trailer. I have seen people (make) a half ton pickup work with that kind of a trailer with a single 4500 pond tractor loaded.

RandyB(MI) · Aug 27, 2015

2 x 3500 = a 7000gvw trailer (plenty of them around) US "A" = 4000-4500# , a 7000gvw 16' trailer will weigh approx. 2200-2400#...tractor at 4500+trailer at 2400 = 6900#. Occasional use...fine. The trailer he is talking about is way too heavy, when loaded, for his truck. He needs a 16'-18' / 10,000 gvw (2 5200# axles) so it will more than carry the weight BUT the trailer itself will only eat up abt. 2500 of capacity. My heavy built Load Trail 20' / 1000gvw weighed in at 2700.

T in NE · Aug 30, 2015

Seems I may be.the only one who read that as 3500
empty weight.

Dick L · Aug 31, 2015

Not really, That was the only reason for my post. My trailer only weigh 500 more pounds than the one he was talking about.

stonerock · Oct 22, 2015

too much trailer and tractor for a half ton truck

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