Pulling advice for the infrequent hauler

Bonnan

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My son now needs to pull his NH TC35 bucket/backhoe about 100 miles round trip probably 3 or 4 times a year. 7200# gross on 18ft trailer. Since he is on limited budget he is looking at some 2009 or 10 150 Fords, V8 4.6L and 3.55 rear end.
Prices are around $15000 which is the max he wants to put in it. He will only drive the truck about 6 to 8000 miles per year otherwise. Has anybody done something similar?
 

He needs to go shopping reading the stickers on the drivers door. They will tell the max truck load and the max truck and trailer load. The weight is governed by tires wheels bearings axles and brakes.
 
(quoted from post at 02:33:02 06/12/15) My son now needs to pull his NH TC35 bucket/backhoe about 100 miles round trip probably 3 or 4 times a year. 7200# gross on 18ft trailer. Since he is on limited budget he is looking at some 2009 or 10 150 Fords, V8 4.6L and 3.55 rear end.
Prices are around $15000 which is the max he wants to put in it. He will only drive the truck about 6 to 8000 miles per year otherwise. Has anybody done something similar?

Legally he should be fine so long as said trailer has working brakes, and its properly secured and is properly built to handle the load with properly rated tires. In a very unlikely situation, what the cops would care about is if any of the tires are overloaded and if either the truck or trailer is overloaded based on what the truck and trailer are registered to haul. In a non-commercial application, what would get them to pull him over is not having the load properly secured, or looking unsafe.
My truck is registered for 8800 GVW. I tow a gooseneck registered for 17000gvw. So as long as the pin weight of the gooseneck doesn't shoot my trucks weight over 8800 pounds, I'm good.
The 4.6L will prove to be quite a dog but if he's hauling flat roads and highway it should be sufficient.
 
(quoted from post at 03:14:26 06/12/15)
He needs to go shopping reading the stickers on the drivers door. They will tell the max truck load and the max truck and trailer load. The weight is governed by tires wheels bearings axles and brakes.


Any max trailer load from the manufacturer doesn't mean squat. What does matter is what the trucks registered GVW is.
 
(quoted from post at 09:40:04 06/12/15)
(quoted from post at 03:14:26 06/12/15)
He needs to go shopping reading the stickers on the drivers door. They will tell the max truck load and the max truck and trailer load. The weight is governed by tires wheels bearings axles and brakes.


Any max trailer load from the manufacturer doesn't mean squat. What does matter is what the trucks registered GVW is.

You may want to check where you are hauling. Here they went right to the stickers on the trailer and the truck door. Whats to stop Bubba from registering his 150 for 11,500 because he rebent the springs, or added air bags.
 
(quoted from post at 18:06:09 06/12/15)
(quoted from post at 09:40:04 06/12/15)
(quoted from post at 03:14:26 06/12/15)
He needs to go shopping reading the stickers on the drivers door. They will tell the max truck load and the max truck and trailer load. The weight is governed by tires wheels bearings axles and brakes.


Any max trailer load from the manufacturer doesn't mean squat. What does matter is what the trucks registered GVW is.

You may want to check where you are hauling. Here they went right to the stickers on the trailer and the truck door. Whats to stop Bubba from registering his 150 for 11,500 because he rebent the springs, or added air bags.

Because DMV's of most states wont let you register it higher than what to door tag says. And its the vehicle GVW that counts. A tow rating doesn't mean squat. Any commercial hot shot with a Ram 3500 would be in deep crap if a manufacturers rated towing capacity meant anything.
Its the registered GVW that counts, because you can register it for less than that.
 
I would look for a F-150 with a towing package or a 4x4 and get the larger engine. I would also use a weight distribution system on trailer. I don't have a Ford but I do have a 97 GMC 4X4 1/2 ton with and 5.7 V8 with towing package in it.I have a 24 foot deckover trailer and haul a tractor that weighs any where from 7,000 to 8,000 lbs.depending on if it's going to show or pull.I have yet to put a distribution system on this trailer.Haven't found one under a $1,000.00 as this is an I beam frame trailer.
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Til a couple years ago there was no standard test to
determine combined gvwr.

As long as the truck's gvwr+ trailer gvwr and the
registered weight each is more than the actual gross
weight you're good.
 
It's still that way in Indiana. I have never had them look at stivker of truck or trailer. All they care is that I weigh less than what I am plated for.
 
A newer F150 can tow that much, but not the way your son wants to spec his truck. He will need the 5.4L engine and 3.73 gears, maybe even 4.11's, plus the towing package so he has all the coolers available. My Son had a 2006 F-150 set up that way, 5.4 & 3.73's and it actually had the choice of two different 4-speed auto trans that effected his tow rating. You might want to check if the '09's & '10's had the same situation. Think a truck that new has a 6-speed A/T.
 
Well he came home with a 2007 F150, 5.4L FFV engine, 3.55 rear end and 7200# GVWR tow pkg yesterday.
For his lifestyle he wanted a 4x4 supercab body and this fits his needs. Body is in above average condition; plans to put 100k on it and keep it 10years. After checking it over I suggested that he have the brake system flushed and all other fluids replaced. He had to travel 3 hours to get it; F150 supercabs are hard to find in PA/Ohio.
 
(quoted from post at 15:50:32 06/12/15) I would look for a F-150 with a towing package or a 4x4 and get the larger engine. I would also use a weight distribution system on trailer. I don't have a Ford but I do have a 97 GMC 4X4 1/2 ton with and 5.7 V8 with towing package in it.I have a 24 foot deckover trailer and haul a tractor that weighs any where from 7,000 to 8,000 lbs.depending on if it's going to show or pull.I have yet to put a distribution system on this trailer.Haven't found one under a $1,000.00 as this is an I beam frame trailer.
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You should be level ....
 

Rent a 3/4 ton truck from Enterprise when you need it.

Guy came to p/u a trailer I sold - he rented a new Ram & it had a 2.5 inch receiver hitch and 7 way plug.
 
Prefer my F250 for hauling as I am more concerned about getting everything stopped rather than being worried about getting it up to speed.
 

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