POWER STROKE VERSES CUMMINGS

It's cummins not Cummings a lot of people mistake it and always irritates me, tug of wars don't prove ,ugh shows who gets traction and who has weight, not power put a trailer behind them and see who has the power,
 
(quoted from post at 13:37:17 05/04/15) It's cummins not Cummings a lot of people mistake it and always irritates me, tug of wars don't prove ,ugh shows who gets traction and who has weight, not power put a trailer behind them and see who has the power,

i would hope two cummins would outpull a powerstroke, but your right its more about traction on a tug of war, but 2 trucks vs 1 really skews that figure, i mean really, TWO trucks on a prepared drag strip vs 1 dually? didnt watch the video this time as i have seen it before but i would put that powerstroke assuming its a 6.0 or 6.4 up against a cummins in terms of power anyday. especially the 6.4., the 6.0 has a few problems to take care of first and then they really make some power, 6.4 make a godawful amount of power with just a tuner being common rail, cummins and duramax have the advantage of being supported by efi-live which makes up for alot.

by the way they say it cummings just to irritate people so you are doing what they want
 
(quoted from post at 18:59:16 05/04/15) The Ford is just a heavier framed truck than the dodge, puts more weight on the wheels.

That has got to be one heavy frame to weigh as much as a whole dodge truck. Or maybe the dodges are built of a lot of thin steel and plastic.
 
Only redneck idiots believe that had anything to do with Cummins vs Powerstroke. That truck could've done that with a gas motor. It must have had some weight in the bed.
 
When Force Fails, use Finesse!
1- The way it looks to me, the strap between the 2 Dodges is not level. The lead Dodge's pull is tending to lift the front of the second one, basically eliminating his front wheel traction. Also by pulling down on his hitch, the lead Dodge is putting some lift on his own front axle, lessening traction there too.
2- Here is the Finesse part. The Ford driver held position & let the Dodges smoke their tires, then just walked them away. Smoke equals melted tire rubber, about as slippery as a wet bar of soap.

Back in the early days of truck pulls I watched a prime example. This was on dirt track. High powered, fat tired, auto trans Fords & Dodges went full throttle. Lots of noise & flying dirt, spun out about half way through.
Then came a farmer with bone stock, skinny tired, 6 cylinder, 4 speed manual trans, IHC, with years of dents & cow pxxp on the fenders. Didn't touch the gas until clutch all the way out, then opened it up to about half throttle. Walked the sled the whole lenght of the course, never spun a wheel.

Willie
 
How do you know the ford owner don't have a lot of weight in the bed or in the cab or tucked up front were you can't see it, my new power
wagon with a 6.4 weighs 7960 pounds full of fuel I'd say that's a pretty heavy truck
 
(quoted from post at 11:30:50 05/05/15) How do you know the ford owner don't have a lot of weight in the bed or in the cab or tucked up front were you can't see it, my new power
wagon with a 6.4 weighs 7960 pounds full of fuel I'd say that's a pretty heavy truck

If those Dodge boys in the video were fool enough to hook together like that in front of a crowd without looking in the truck bed and cab they deserve the lickin' that they got.
 
That reminds me of when in the 70's my cousin had a 1/2 ton 1976 Ford 4x4. It was stock other than dual exhaust, and it had a flatbed. (Farm Truck) My cousin had a 250 gallon diesel fuel barrel on it that he would keep full of fuel.
On days of rain, or winter, we would go to the bars in the closest bigger town on Saturday afternoons and make bets on his truck outpulling the local jacked up supertrucks. Of course, with all the weight, he could outpull them everytime. Like the picture, sometimes he could just sit there with the brakes on and they couldn't even pull him.

Won a lot of beer with that pickup. Usually the Cops would show up afterwards and try to find out who was making the ruckus, but we were never found out. The city guys never did understand why they couldn't win. Bob
 
Though the one where you hear someone say "that Cummins ain't got nothin on this duramax", then the duramax gets drug across the lot, over 2 curbs, and on around the lot, is pretty funny.
 
(quoted from post at 11:31:38 05/15/15) Though the one where you hear someone say "that Cummins ain't got nothin on this duramax", then the duramax gets drug across the lot, over 2 curbs, and on around the lot, is pretty funny.

About 10 years ago I did the same thing with my 93 Dodge Dakota V8 4x4. I had nice 31' BFG A/T's on it, limited slip diff. He had a early 90's F-150 v8 4x4 with highway tires and we were on grass. When we started out it was a stand still but in short order I hooked up and started doing laps around the field.
 
(quoted from post at 02:09:00 05/05/15) When Force Fails, use Finesse!
1- The way it looks to me, the strap between the 2 Dodges is not level. The lead Dodge's pull is tending to lift the front of the second one, basically eliminating his front wheel traction. Also by pulling down on his hitch, the lead Dodge is putting some lift on his own front axle, lessening traction there too.
2- Here is the Finesse part. The Ford driver held position & let the Dodges smoke their tires, then just walked them away. Smoke equals melted tire rubber, about as slippery as a wet bar of soap.

Back in the early days of truck pulls I watched a prime example. This was on dirt track. High powered, fat tired, auto trans Fords & Dodges went full throttle. Lots of noise & flying dirt, spun out about half way through.
Then came a farmer with bone stock, skinny tired, 6 cylinder, 4 speed manual trans, IHC, with years of dents & cow pxxp on the fenders. Didn't touch the gas until clutch all the way out, then opened it up to about half throttle. Walked the sled the whole lenght of the course, never spun a wheel.

Willie

Yep - horsepower will get you to the wall but torque (and traction) will knock it down :)
 
(quoted from post at 09:16:51 05/24/15) I still haven't had anyone point out the fallacy in my statement, "Ford owns Cummings, Cummins builds engines".
personally , MY 2 cents is, when you do the two trucks and then have one pulling the other way, the truck pulling the other way being heavier
tends to want to lift up the truck closest to it, and then that front dodge, is trying to pull 2 trucks
PLUS spinning wheels don't have traction
the tow dodge drivers would have been better off standing on there brakes and waiting for the ford to start to spin its wheels and then got on the throttle!
knowing how to pull makes a big difference , at times too!
 
(quoted from post at 13:59:16 07/04/15)
(quoted from post at 09:16:51 05/24/15) I still haven't had anyone point out the fallacy in my statement, "Ford owns Cummings, Cummins builds engines".
personally , MY 2 cents is, when you do the two trucks and then have one pulling the other way, the truck pulling the other way being heavier
tends to want to lift up the truck closest to it, and then that front dodge, is trying to pull 2 trucks
PLUS spinning wheels don't have traction
the tow dodge drivers would have been better off standing on there brakes and waiting for the ford to start to spin its wheels and then got on the throttle!
knowing how to pull makes a big difference , at times too!

From my 17 years of pulling it is the drawbar height that determines weather there is up pull or down pull as opposed to how many there may be pulling in one direction or the other. If you had asked either of those dodge drivers, just before they had that pull, if they knew how to pull they both would have said that not only did they know how to pull, they would have said that they knew how to pull way better than than mrbb1.
 
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show crop, since you can read minds, and know what others would say and do?
Any chance you can predict lottery numbers?? LOL,
Just kidding, and I am sure most guys think they know more about things than they actually do.so your more likely right, them dodge drivers would have said they know what there doing.
draw bar height has a ton to do with down force, traction and such.NO doubt.
but I still say, a middle vehicle has less traction most times, due to being pulled in two directions
just making the weaker of the other two, having a harder time trying to pull
and dully, tends to have more traction that a single tire, thus, that ford wins there, and who knows how much motor work is done to any of these?
and that can make a big difference too IF traction is there

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show crop, since you can read minds, and know what others would say and do?
Any chance you can predict lottery numbers?? LOL,
Just kidding, and I am sure most guys think they know more about things than they actually do.so your more likely right, them dodge drivers would have said they know what there doing.
draw bar height has a ton to do
but I stall say, a middle vehicle has less traction most times, due to being pulled in two directions
just making the weaker of the other two, having a harder time trying to pull
and dully, tends to have more traction that a single tire, thus, that ford wins there, and who knows how much motor work is done to any of these?
and that can make a big difference too IF traction is there

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