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Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke

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farmer boy

12-20-2013 12:26:10

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#1. Despite what you claim, your 6500lb truck with 4.56 gears will NEVER get the same mileage as a diesel with 3.73 gears. No way! No how! It would defy the laws of physics. There simply isn't as much energy in gas, and it doesn't burn as efficiently.

#2 You keep talking about cost. Your truck cost MORE than a diesel. Why does this escape you EVERY time it's brought to your attention.

#3 It's a M-Fing Gas. IT WILL NEVER last as long as a diesel. You see diesel pickups all over the place with 300,000-500,000 miles. The same truck with a gas engine MIGHT last 300,000 if you're very nice to it AND get lucky. A well designed and properly maintained diesel engine will always outlast a well designed and properly maintained gas engine.
#3 (a)-Will your truck last 30 years? If not, why the F**k did you bring it up? (b) There are poorly built diesels that are over 30 years old(6.2 Detroit), without a rebuild. Lots of 6.9 Internationals that are coming up on 30 years old. Explain why EVERY real tractor build in the last 40 years is a diesel. It ain't because they pull worse and are more expensive to maintain. A diesel and gas truck share the same body and frame. It's been well established that a diesel will last longer. The only case where a diesel caused a truck to wear noticeably faster(front end) is the Cummins in the 94'-06' Ram.

#4 Everything comes down to math. Let's assume that your truck has 500 lb ft of torque and a diesel has 800 lb ft of torque. The diesel is multiplied 3.73 times through the rear end. Meaning the axles are transmitting 2984lb ft. of torque to the rear tire. The gas is multiplied 4.56 times, to deliver 2280 lb. ft. of torque to the rear wheel. Diesel wins even when the gas has an exaggerated amount of torque. Lets try that again with 560 lbs. ft. of torque for the gas. (an additional 153 lb.ft. of torque over factory) 560x4.56=2553 lb.ft. of torque through the rear axles.

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12-20-2013 16:51:38

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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to farmer boy, 12-20-2013 12:26:10  
It costed more because I bought a Powerwagon, will it last 30 years, you better believe it and it and gonna have a thing wrong with it either, I get 17mpg unloaded and around 8-10 loaded, and if you look what a Powerwagon is equipped with you'll see why it's more, it's kinda like a ford raptor, I can take it across a v ripped field 40mph like a atv and it rides just fine. And a diesel will last that long but its gonna be more to maintain, you can run a gas truck cheaper and that's a fact, and when I got 5 year/ 100,000 mile warranty I don't have nothing to worry about that's why you buy new. Look at trucks from the 70s and 80s there will be more gas trucks left than diesels. Kinda like old gas tractors look there's plenty of them left. We have a 66 oliver my grandpa bought brand new in 1954 and the motor in that has never been rebuilt and still runs like a top.

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farmer boy

12-21-2013 06:07:54

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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-20-2013 16:51:38  
Is english your first language?

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12-22-2013 05:32:40

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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to farmer boy, 12-21-2013 06:07:54  
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We know his buddy isn't English as first language:


7 months ago

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great ! the bad thing is that grey truck is dead now but we have a 2013 RAM 1500 Sport and dude, it is awesome i can beat every Civic i see ahahah.. BUT, you can work with it my uncle have a 12500 pounds camper and it's the same thing like you. sorry for my bad english lol

As a plus, the 2009 RAM didn't even last FOUR YEARS hahahhaha

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12-21-2013 07:29:59

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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to farmer boy, 12-21-2013 06:07:54  
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Quote someone so we know who your talking to.

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12-21-2013 08:08:03

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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to PretendFarmer, 12-21-2013 07:29:59  
To pretend farmer. I still use Classic View.In classic view it shows me replying to G1355. Modern view and classic view aren't overly compatible when it comes to quoting and replies.

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