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Ford 6.7 Powerstroke

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Cliff S

12-10-2013 00:03:52




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How is the new 6.7 diesel holding up?

What's the expected Fule mileage?

Cliff S




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varmint

04-02-2014 11:34:04




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
after going through this read i'm glad to have hip-boots on - some of it is just plain crazy - can't tell if it was nite-mare or a w*t-dreem



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Cliff S

12-23-2013 06:42:12




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
Thanks to the people who gave me a Information on a NEW 2011-2014 FORD 6.7L Diesel!

For the life of me I cannot see why some people need to make a P-ing mach out of a Subject not related to the post!

Thanks again to those who helped!

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David G

12-23-2013 09:36:23




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-23-2013 06:42:12  
In response to the question, we have a 2011 and a 2012 6.7, love them both.



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casemagnum

01-08-2014 10:55:59




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to David G, 12-23-2013 09:36:23  
We have an early 2005 f250 with a 6.0 with 195,000 on it with very few repairs. We ordered it in July 2004, took delivery in Dec. 2004. Bought extended warranty before it reached 100,000 miles. Put in 3 injectors about 120,000. FICM about 150,000. EGR cooler about 175,000. Absolutely love this pickup.

Used to be strictly GM. We bought a new 2008 Duramax in Dec. 2008. Hated that pickup other than inside the cab was quieter than Ford. Only reason we bought was we were not sold on 6.4 diesel by Ford. We got rid of before it reached 60,000 miles. Kept 2005 6.0 Ford.We also ordered a 2011 f350 with 6.7 and took delivery in Sept. 2011. It has 45,000 on it now.
The 6.7 shows it is getting 17.0 lifetime on trip meter. Has 3.31 gears with 18" factory wheels. Maybe a little too low of a ratio. Everything we are pricing now Ford is automatically putting in 3.55. Can't even get 3.31. Was wondering if we put on 20" off Lariat if it would help. We always order XLT as we don't like leather. We will probably keep 2005 6.0 just as a farm pickup. Hate to make 2011 with 6.7 in to a farm pickup already.
Whoever was talking about the power in these 6.7's is correct. We bought a low mile 2001 f250 with 7.3 a year after we bought the 6.0. The 6.0 will walk all over the 7.3 and in our situation was more reliable. The 7.3 would gel up and the 6.0 don't. Traded the 7.3 for the duramax and both the 7.3 and 6.0 had identical miles. We just liked the 6.0 a lot better as it also got a lot better fuel mileage. It gets around 15-17 empty and 10-12 pulling trailer at 70-75. The 6.7 will walk all over the 6.0 and get about 18-20 normal driving and 12-15 pulling trailer. The one trip meter for mileage has not been reset since new and total vehicle lifetime average today is 17.0.

The new 2014 we are looking at ordering is a loaded up f350 diesel crew cab 4X4 XLT with almost every option. List price is $57,880. Dealer invoice is $53,430.78 today. Rebates today are $5000 for a total out the door no trade price of $48,430.78.

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David G

01-08-2014 11:57:47




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to casemagnum, 01-08-2014 10:55:59  
I had a 6.0 Ford, then 6.6 duramax. The 6.0 would blow the Duramax away, and the 6.7 blows them both away.



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showcrop

12-23-2013 09:30:42




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-23-2013 06:42:12  
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I have never thought that starting a discussion gave me authority over what direction it took, either here or at the local coffee shop.



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PretendFarmer

12-21-2013 04:10:09




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  

G1355 said: (quoted from post at 01:51:38 12/21/13) It costed more because I bought a Powerwagon, will it last 30 years, you better believe it and it and gonna have a thing wrong with it either, I get 17mpg unloaded and around 8-10 loaded, and if you look what a Powerwagon is equipped with you'll see why it's more, it's kinda like a ford raptor, I can take it across a v ripped field 40mph like a atv and it rides just fine. And a diesel will last that long but its gonna be more to maintain, you can run a gas truck cheaper and that's a fact, and when I got 5 year/ 100,000 mile warranty I don't have nothing to worry about that's why you buy new. Look at trucks from the 70s and 80s there will be more gas trucks left than diesels. Kinda like old gas tractors look there's plenty of them left. We have a 66 oliver my grandpa bought brand new in 1954 and the motor in that has never been rebuilt and still runs like a top.


I am doing a facepalm right now.
This post was edited by PretendFarmer at 04:12:31 12/21/13.

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8v92guy

12-20-2013 18:01:16




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
I don't know of any diesel pickups from 70's as for 80's there was only three 6.9 ford (international) 6.2 gm and cummins gas was cheap in the 80's and diesels were not in high demand then. That's why there are more gas pickups from that era. Oh sorry I forgot about the junk Nissan diesels IH put in the scouts in 70's. As for the 6.7 powerstroke I have some friends that love them. I like my 6.7 cummins.

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G1355

12-20-2013 18:35:45




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to 8v92guy, 12-20-2013 18:01:16  
I'll agree the cummins is a good motor, that's defiantly what's I'd buy if I got a diesel, and it'd be in a dodge another plus.



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blue924.9

12-17-2013 05:56:38




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
i have got a question about the video, any particular reason none of them are speaking english? and i cant tell 100 percent sure but those sure dont look like american license plates on the truck or trailer?



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12-17-2013 06:33:16




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Well, I will add that they had the excavator right behind it to push whenever the going got a little tough, and that type of snow plow frame has been illegal in the US for about fifteen years. Must be crazy Russians.



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495man

12-22-2013 05:29:20




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to showcrop, 12-17-2013 06:33:16  
I think the video is in Quebec, sounds french and the truck plate looks like Quebec, but can't say for sure.

Good thing the excavator was there to push it out. I was going ask how they edited out the tow chain and Ford in front of the Ram.



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jlg

12-16-2013 16:45:32




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
I have a 6.7 on order. Everyone I know that has one gets 15mpg avg. Not highway miles and some towing. I have a trailer hooked up more often than not and my 5.4 was getting 10mpg, and warping exhaust manifolds every 30000 miles. The 6.7 has crazy power, you've got to drive it to appreciate it. The way I did the math - by 120000 miles you've paid the same total cost for either gas or diesel. The increased milage of the diesel makes the difference, even with higher fuel cost and oil changes. 100000 mile engine warranty on the 6.7. The 6.0s scarred me, but I'm going to give this one a shot. Im paying $8000 less than what ford build and price said it would cost.

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PretendFarmer

12-16-2013 05:33:53




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
The reason why there are more gas powered 2500's out there isnt because the gas version pulls better. Its because the gas motor is adequete for most jobs. There are not more gas 3500's than diesels. Maybe in idiot land where you live.

Adequete does not equate to better.

If I was buying a new truck, I would probably be stuck with a friggin gasser. Not because I cant wait to burn tons of gas and go slow up steep grades, but because I cant afford a $50k truck.
This post was edited by PretendFarmer at 05:36:29 12/16/13 3 times.

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Jason1Pa

12-14-2013 09:51:45




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
It looks as if this thread has gotten way of track,but I"ll answer what you asked. I have a 2012 6.7 Crew Cab dually with 3:73 gears.. 9,000+ miles on it so far. I use it pretty much for travel and pulling my tractors around to shows. My personal best was 20.2 MPG empty and I"m around 14 mpg when towing my gooseneck with a tractor or two on it. Now the figures I gave you are one the highway since thats what I travel the most. I"m sure if you start pulling up hills on country roads it would go down for sure.
As far as the engine goes it is insane. You really can"t tell how much power you have until you tow heavy. This engine will produce it"s 800 ft. pounds of torque at only 1,600 RPM. There really is no need to push the peddle to the floor. You would only be waisting fuel.
No major problems that I hear. Sure you will have you issues here and there with some,but over all people like them. Some where on YouTube there is one that already has 500,000 miles on it and the only hing that was replaced was the radiator. Not bad if you ask me.

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David G

12-14-2013 15:51:17




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Jason1Pa, 12-14-2013 09:51:45  
I let a customer try out my truck he is thinking about upgrading from Chevy gasser. His only response after coming back was "this thing is scary powerful".



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David G

12-13-2013 06:48:59




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
It looks like G1355 can't let go of this, maybe it is hidden Diesel envy.



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12-13-2013 18:46:04




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I don't think that he is old enough to have a license let alone a truck or a trailer to tow.



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Brian Jasper co. Ia

12-15-2013 08:34:49




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to showcrop, 12-13-2013 18:46:04  
Yeah, he"s a 15-16 yr old kid driving his dad"s truck once in a while.



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G1355

12-15-2013 10:21:44




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Brian Jasper co. Ia, 12-15-2013 08:34:49  
When you get that 6.7 to over 30 years and be basically trouble free like my 1979 dodge w150 with a 360, then I will consider buying one, in that case any power stroke that can make it that long, they will be long gone by then



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blue924.9

12-16-2013 06:16:53




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-15-2013 10:21:44  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see well its not a powerstroke but the 6.9 idi came out in the early 80's and besides a newer diesel with 500,000 miles on it has technically lasted longer than a w150 with a 360 at 250,000 miles (used these numbers for easy figuring) and it has more hp and torque, so on to the next "discussion"



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John M

12-15-2013 15:37:49




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-15-2013 10:21:44  
Can we assume your about the same age as the person/people in your "friends" video?



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12-15-2013 12:09:35




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"make it that long....long gone by then" what is that? a negative and a positive cancel each other out to nothing?



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G1355

12-15-2013 13:44:50




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to showcrop, 12-15-2013 12:09:35  
Any power stroke that can make it thirty years, or "that long". They will be long gone by then, "rotted out, crushed, sitting in someone's grove" in other words not being on the road or in use. Hope that sums it up for you.



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T in NE

12-22-2013 10:39:24




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-15-2013 13:44:50  
So by buying the two identical trucks, and using them the same amount, same loads, same roads and weather conditions, the one with the gas engine won't rot out, and the other will simply because it's got the diesel motor in it?



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G1355

12-15-2013 10:17:06




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Brian Jasper co. Ia, 12-15-2013 08:34:49  
Yeah how did you guess, lol you guys know nothing



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farmer boy

12-20-2013 11:43:44




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-15-2013 10:17:06  
Comments like this really don't do much for your image. Read your comments in ten years, and you'll understand why people were(are) accusing you of driving your daddy's truck. The way in which comments are written show a lot about you.



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John M

12-13-2013 07:04:40




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to David G, 12-13-2013 06:48:59  
Hes related to B&D!



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Brian Jasper co. Ia

12-15-2013 08:35:54




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to John M, 12-13-2013 07:04:40  
LOL!



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PretendFarmer

12-13-2013 04:22:17




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Clay bragg, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
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I've seen people pulling skid steers with s-10's. That doesnt mean it is a good idea, or it does it better than well.....anything else.



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David G

12-12-2013 16:29:21




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
You guys should quit stirring up G1355 or this will never end.



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welled deers

12-12-2013 15:48:19




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
just put 8,000 miles on my 6.7 in Alaska towing a 35 foot fifth wheel. Very pleased with the performance. Could pass anything I wanted and the truck averaged 13.9 mpg pulling the camper. I get about 16 mpg empty, although I can get it down to 12 mpg if I push it hard.



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PretendFarmer

12-12-2013 07:09:19




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
I would never want a 4.56:1 geared gasser over a 3.5:1 geared diesel.
Gassers can't outpull diesels no matter how stupid you are it wont do it.

Just look what you have to do to get the gasser to pull what a diesel would do. 4.56:1 gearing? What are you turning 4000rpm's on the highway. That motor will never ever last as long as a diesel.

Get the proper equipment. I cant stand guys like you who make things do what they shouldnt.
This post was edited by PretendFarmer at 07:18:35 12/12/13.

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blue924.9

12-12-2013 07:42:43




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no, in the modern world there is such a thing as overdrive, try 2000 rpms, that being said i know a diesel will pull better, but my gasser can do anything i need it to and a heck of a lot cheaper than a diesel



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PretendFarmer

12-12-2013 07:45:57




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to blue924.9, 12-12-2013 07:42:43  
Your full of it and you know it. At 3.55:1 gearing in OVERDRIVE I turn 2000 rpms at 70.



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G1355

12-12-2013 13:38:21




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to PretendFarmer, 12-12-2013 07:45:57  
4:56 gears at 60mph is about 2000rpms and at 75 2500rpms, to run 4500rpms I'm doing about 105-110mph, and a gas will out pull a diesel if geared lower, and I can chip my gas also or supercharge it and get over 150 hp and more than that in torque and it still won't cost more than a diesel. If you take the extra 7500 your spending on a diesel and stick 7500 in a hemi it will out pull a diesel anyday

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Lazy WP

12-22-2013 15:18:50




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-12-2013 13:38:21  
I REALLY want to know how you are going to "chip" a 79 360!!



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T in NE

12-22-2013 10:28:09




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-12-2013 13:38:21  
Go ahead and supercharge it, and you'll be paying the same amount for fuel when you have to buy premium to keep it from grenading itself under load.



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farmer boy

12-20-2013 12:26:10




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-12-2013 13:38:21  
#1. Despite what you claim, your 6500lb truck with 4.56 gears will NEVER get the same mileage as a diesel with 3.73 gears. No way! No how! It would defy the laws of physics. There simply isn't as much energy in gas, and it doesn't burn as efficiently.

#2 You keep talking about cost. Your truck cost MORE than a diesel. Why does this escape you EVERY time it's brought to your attention.

#3 It's a M-Fing Gas. IT WILL NEVER last as long as a diesel. You see diesel pickups all over the place with 300,000-500,000 miles. The same truck with a gas engine MIGHT last 300,000 if you're very nice to it AND get lucky. A well designed and properly maintained diesel engine will always outlast a well designed and properly maintained gas engine.
#3 (a)-Will your truck last 30 years? If not, why the F**k did you bring it up? (b) There are poorly built diesels that are over 30 years old(6.2 Detroit), without a rebuild. Lots of 6.9 Internationals that are coming up on 30 years old. Explain why EVERY real tractor build in the last 40 years is a diesel. It ain't because they pull worse and are more expensive to maintain. A diesel and gas truck share the same body and frame. It's been well established that a diesel will last longer. The only case where a diesel caused a truck to wear noticeably faster(front end) is the Cummins in the 94'-06' Ram.

#4 Everything comes down to math. Let's assume that your truck has 500 lb ft of torque and a diesel has 800 lb ft of torque. The diesel is multiplied 3.73 times through the rear end. Meaning the axles are transmitting 2984lb ft. of torque to the rear tire. The gas is multiplied 4.56 times, to deliver 2280 lb. ft. of torque to the rear wheel. Diesel wins even when the gas has an exaggerated amount of torque. Lets try that again with 560 lbs. ft. of torque for the gas. (an additional 153 lb.ft. of torque over factory) 560x4.56=2553 lb.ft. of torque through the rear axles.

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G1355

12-20-2013 16:51:38




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to farmer boy, 12-20-2013 12:26:10  
It costed more because I bought a Powerwagon, will it last 30 years, you better believe it and it and gonna have a thing wrong with it either, I get 17mpg unloaded and around 8-10 loaded, and if you look what a Powerwagon is equipped with you'll see why it's more, it's kinda like a ford raptor, I can take it across a v ripped field 40mph like a atv and it rides just fine. And a diesel will last that long but its gonna be more to maintain, you can run a gas truck cheaper and that's a fact, and when I got 5 year/ 100,000 mile warranty I don't have nothing to worry about that's why you buy new. Look at trucks from the 70s and 80s there will be more gas trucks left than diesels. Kinda like old gas tractors look there's plenty of them left. We have a 66 oliver my grandpa bought brand new in 1954 and the motor in that has never been rebuilt and still runs like a top.

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farmer boy

12-21-2013 06:07:54




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-20-2013 16:51:38  
Is english your first language?



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495man

12-22-2013 05:32:40




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We know his buddy isn't English as first language:

BeniGoPro

7 months ago

in reply to Luke L

great ! the bad thing is that grey truck is dead now but we have a 2013 RAM 1500 Sport and dude, it is awesome i can beat every Civic i see ahahah.. BUT, you can work with it my uncle have a 12500 pounds camper and it's the same thing like you. sorry for my bad english lol

As a plus, the 2009 RAM didn't even last FOUR YEARS hahahhaha

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PretendFarmer

12-21-2013 07:29:59




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Quote someone so we know who your talking to.



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farmer boy

12-21-2013 08:08:03




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To pretend farmer. I still use Classic View.In classic view it shows me replying to G1355. Modern view and classic view aren't overly compatible when it comes to quoting and replies.



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PretendFarmer

12-13-2013 04:20:48




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-12-2013 13:38:21  

G1355 said: (quoted from post at 22:38:21 12/12/13) 4:56 gears at 60mph is about 2000rpms and at 75 2500rpms,
to run 4500rpms I'm doing about 105-110mph, and a gas will
out pull a diesel if geared lower, and I can chip my gas also or
supercharge it and get over 150 hp and more than that in
torque and it still won't cost more than a diesel. If you take the
extra 7500 your spending on a diesel and stick 7500 in a hemi
it will out pull a diesel anyday


In an unloaded truck, sure. Otherwise not. No gas engine will get the low rpm load moving torque that a diesel engine does.

Your arguement of gearing down a gasser to make it outpull a diesel is stupid.
Same truck, same GEARS you lose. Even remotely close gearing, you lose.
This post was edited by PretendFarmer at 04:23:49 12/13/13.

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G1355

12-13-2013 05:52:21




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to PretendFarmer, 12-13-2013 04:20:48  
Maybe same gears you'll out pull me, but if you take the extra 7000 or so it takes to get a diesel and stick it in the gas you will not out pull it. That gas will walk all over you. There is a reason there's more gas trucks sold than diesels in the 2500 and 3500s because there cheaper to run and maintain.



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12-13-2013 05:02:31




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A couple years ago I came upon a little car stuck in the ditch on a back road near my place. There was a small P/U chained to it with one tire in a hole and one nearly off the ground. I stopped and then told them that I would be back soon and went to get a chain. So being the arrogant SOB that I am I hooked onto the pick-up and I stayed on the pavement, and pulled them both out simultaneously with my F-350 with 6.0. I didn't even step on the gas just kept it an an idle. After getting it out I noticed that the citiot with the little car had not taken it out of park.

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12-12-2013 12:41:46




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Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see you probably have the old standard .75 to 1 overdrive, now a days the overdrives are around .50 to 1, trust me i drove a trailblazer with 4.56 gears and it turned 2 grand with a .57 overdrive gear, just cuase you have a steeper overdrive gear doesnt mean every one else does. its called the best of both worlds high gears for good acceleration and a mellow overdrive gear for good highway mpgs not only that i could have 5.13 gears and 46 inch tires and turn 2 grand worth of rpms at 110 mph, a smart person contemplates all the factors of engine rpm at speed before telling everyone else they are wrong because they have better gears for towing than you do and are still turning the same or lower rpms

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T in NE

12-22-2013 10:34:30




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to blue924.9, 12-12-2013 12:41:46  
And with any load at all behind that .57 OD gear (or 37 inch mud tires) at 2000 RPM your gas engine is going to need to downshift because it's already well under its torque peak. The diesel will lug down another 300-500 RPM before needing to shift.



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blue924.9

12-12-2013 06:31:07




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
i will give you guys something to chew on for awhile. my 4.9 300 six has pulled 10,000 pounds of wet wood (didnt want to pile on more, it was just a half ton) yeah it wasnt fast but when towing acceleration isnt a concern to me, while pulling this load i got 16 mpg unloaded i get 20 why would i want to buy a diesel when parts and fuel is way more expensive when my gas job (which by the way has only 165 hp but 285 ft ibs at 2000 rpm) can tow the load just fine

pic for proof, kinda hard to see the whole trailer

http://s1361.photobucket.com/user/blue9249/media/2013-08-31191819_zps0d855dff.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3

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chucksoliver77

12-11-2013 19:18:53




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Banditfarmer, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
no,no I want to see it hooked to your ram with 25000 lbs. on it, with the truck and trailer in the picture



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G1355

12-12-2013 16:25:15




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to chucksoliver77, 12-11-2013 19:18:53  
Alright next time I pull a big load I will send you one, don't pull much in the winter, here's my buddy with his 1500 hemi pulling just as much if you don't believe me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f6cWi1kTUg&noredirect=1



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mikefromcny

12-18-2013 22:13:09




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-12-2013 16:25:15  
LOL who puts a gooseneck hitch in a half ton truck? That video proves nothing. My Kubota B7100 with all of its 16 hp, can tow my 8000lb 01 3500 cummins flatbed all over my yard in neutral, at 1 mph, like the truck in the video. Lets see it hold 65 up a small grade, for 200K miles.



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chucksoliver77

12-11-2013 19:03:39




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
G1355, That must be some gooseneck trailer you have there that can carry 25000 lbs, wow must at least have a 30000+ gvw can you post a picture of that trailer?



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David G

12-11-2013 19:25:30




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to chucksoliver77, 12-11-2013 19:03:39  
Just like the Toyota pulled the space shuttle.

Pull that down the highway at 75 with your Hemi.



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G1355

12-11-2013 19:30:23




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to David G, 12-11-2013 19:25:30  
I could it geared low enough it's got more power than I know what to do with the generation three hemi is pretty mean. 5.7 and the 6.4 is espicially



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G1355

12-11-2013 19:10:35




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to chucksoliver77, 12-11-2013 19:03:39  

It looks pretty much like this one tripe axle, but its gray not black. It's a 34' beavertail



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chucksoliver77

12-11-2013 11:23:15




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Ralph Bauer, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see just did the same thing, a 2014 f350 XL 4x4 reg. cab with powerstroke lists at $41740.00 Chuck



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ToddLevi

12-10-2013 16:07:32




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
I have had a 6.7 for 3 years. Almost all of the mile have been towing hay trailers or my camper.
In heavy wind at 75 MPH 9 - 11 mpg. Local hay delivery with 15k 12 - 15 mpg. 900 mile trip to look at a tractor 19.7 mpg(75 mph).DEF cost is only $12 every 5,000 miles. I wouldn"t trade it for anything else out there.



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robert major

12-10-2013 17:55:59




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to ToddLevi, 12-10-2013 16:07:32  
My 99 f250 super duty 7.3 is worth less than the wheels on your truck and gets about the same mileage. The ford dealers are wanting me to call in for a coffee and chat, guess they think I should buy a newer truck . I'M thinking what the cost is and no better MPG i'll stay home L.O.L Regards Robert



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David G

12-11-2013 19:08:17




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to robert major, 12-10-2013 17:55:59  
The 7.3 is a great motor, well worth fixing up if the body is still good on the truck.



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State of Jefferson

12-11-2013 11:00:10




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to robert major, 12-10-2013 17:55:59  
Just for fun the other night I got on ford.com and priced out a new Powerstroke. Nothin fancy. Cloth seats with some creature comforts.

$56,000!

I think I'll rebuild my ol' 7.3, thank you very much!

Ben



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PretendFarmer

12-11-2013 11:24:33




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to State of Jefferson, 12-11-2013 11:00:10  

State of Jefferson said: (quoted from post at 20:00:10 12/11/13) Just for fun the other night I got on ford.com and priced out a new Powerstroke. Nothin fancy. Cloth seats with some creature comforts.

$56,000!
I think I'll rebuild my ol' 7.3, thank you very much!

Ben


Thats the way I see it. I dont know how anyone affords new trucks. And the price of a gas job isnt far behind it either. I priced out a decent gas 2500 it was $31000 and a barebones diesel was $41000...

Getting the diesel option put other heavy duty options on the truck.
Of course at the dealthlershit you can haggle them down so you may wind up paying $35000 for a 2500 diesel work truck or $25000 for a similar gas job...
This post was edited by PretendFarmer at 11:29:42 12/11/13.

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T in NE

12-14-2013 16:23:51




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to PretendFarmer, 12-11-2013 11:24:33  
Only way you'd get me into another diesel is a Cummins up to 2002, or a 7.3 powerjoke. Only way to get me into another gas job would be pre-01 Dodge, pre-07 4.3 Chevy, or 300-6 Frod.

I think the troll's figures on speed vs RPM is a situation where the lower gears are to make up for 35 or 37 inch tires.



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David G

12-10-2013 08:41:52




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
I have had one for 2 year, 60K miles. The worst mileage is 16.5 around town and about 14 pulling. It gets 18-20 on the highway.



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ollie poor

12-10-2013 05:49:05




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to Cliff S, 12-10-2013 00:03:52  
Well keep in mind ours has a 3.30 axle ratio which is a little high for this truck. pulling a trailer empty 12.3. With 4,000 lbs on 7.6. Pathetic. just motoring to town 13.7 but the truck has a lot of power.



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PretendFarmer

12-10-2013 06:36:15




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to ollie poor, 12-10-2013 05:49:05  
That seems quite poor. My 97 cummins tows heavy trailers and gets that mileage. 15mpg 8000lbs+ heavy.

The biggest pain with new diesels to me is the EPA equipment hindering mileage. Plus you have to put diesel exhaust fluid in which costs money itself.

Its so damn stupid because with gas jobs they want to squeeze every bit of mileage they can but with diesels it seems like they want them to consume as much fuel as possible in the name of being cleaner?!?
This post was edited by PretendFarmer at 06:38:25 12/10/13 2 times.

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G1355

12-10-2013 13:36:58




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to PretendFarmer, 12-10-2013 06:36:15  
That's why I'd buy the gas, cheaper to run/maintain



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PretendFarmer

12-11-2013 08:52:57




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-10-2013 13:36:58  

G1355 said: (quoted from post at 22:36:58 12/10/13) That's why I'd buy the gas, cheaper to run/maintain


You and your gas rigs. They wouldn't have a chance at towing what a diesel could. I wouldnt buy a gas rig to tow over 10,000lbs. And I definitely wouldnt buy a new Ford diesel.
This post was edited by PretendFarmer at 08:53:16 12/11/13.

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T in NE

12-11-2013 19:34:49




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to PretendFarmer, 12-11-2013 08:52:57  
Don't feed the trolls!



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G1355

12-11-2013 13:32:41




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to PretendFarmer, 12-11-2013 08:52:57  
Gas will pull as good as a diesel as long as its geared right, gearing has more effect than gas vs diesel, I will take 4:56 gears and you can take a diesel with 3:30 gears and lets see who wins you could even have 3:73 and I'll take the new 6.4 hemi to



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Stick welding

12-22-2013 15:25:48




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-11-2013 13:32:41  
In a semi you can have as many gears as you want and even aux. transmissions for more gears. Look at some of the HD trucks from the 50's and 60's and I think some had as many as 48 speeds! They were still diesel. I worked in a shop that built natural gas plants. They had to get a huge skid out of the shop. A hydraulic power pack was brought in to lift it so it could be put on a trailer. Once on the trailer, the hauler brought over an old REO(I think) to move the trailer to the yard pending delivery. They have a fleet of new trucks with a lot more HP but for the real big job brought the old one over and it moved the 100 ton+ skid by itself. There's a reason they aren't still using the IH 549 gas engines in semi's. Even with the most modern hi-tech gas engine, you wouldn't come close to the durability, fuel economy and efficiency of the diesel in heavy duty applications.

A Hemi is a decent engine but also one of the biggest frauds in the automotive world. Dodge owns the trademark and is using it to sell vehicles but that's all it is. The 426 and earlier Hemi engines were in fact true to the term Hemi. The new ones, not so much.

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David G

12-11-2013 16:58:55




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-11-2013 13:32:41  
You will burn twice the fuel with that gasser.



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G1355

12-11-2013 18:53:01




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to David G, 12-11-2013 16:58:55  
Don't know if I can agree with that either, worst I ever have got was 6 mpg with 25,000 pounds on a fifth wheel trailer and where I work there power strokes will get around 8-9 pulling just around 15,000 never pulled as much with one, not saying it wouldn't do it, it would, but where I work we will load it on the semi or dump truck over 20,000, and gas is quiet a bit cheaper



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larryanderson

12-19-2013 03:44:16




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 Re: Ford 6.7 Powerstroke in reply to G1355, 12-11-2013 18:53:01  
Back to 6.7 mileage I had a new 11 F-350 w/DEF and it never got over 9/10 pulling a 32 loaded gooseneck and it was a regular cab and the fuel tank held 21 gallons.I had a Duramax before with the LBZ higher performance diesel was about the same ,Now have a new Dodge and it is still about 10.I had a powerstroke that got 14 and an older Dodge 12 valve mechanical that got 16+.The new ones have a great transmission and plenty of power but too many pollution devices take away their mileage.If you can drive 55 and not push the pedal they will improve their mileage but thats not me.Lots of chips,controllers,and exhaust but they are expensive,some illegal,and certain dealers will void warranty but will enhance mileage close to 5MPG

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