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Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle.

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soundguy

07-01-2013 06:02:26
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way quicker?




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G1355

07-01-2013 18:20:41
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to soundguy, 07-01-2013 06:02:26  
Yes way quicker, have you ever raced a stock gas vs a diesel,why do you think muscle cars aren't diesels or race cars?



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soundguy

07-02-2013 04:50:22
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to G1355, 07-01-2013 18:20:41  
racing is for sports fans.

what a race car does on a track baears no similarity to what a truck pulling a load down the highway is doing.



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John M

07-02-2013 11:54:37
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to soundguy, 07-02-2013 04:50:22  
I think he"s missing something, Chris! Just cant think of a polite way to say it!



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soundguy

07-02-2013 15:23:04
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to John M, 07-02-2013 11:54:37  
i thought about asking if he know of any gas powered semi trucks or freight trains.. all the big prime movers i see are diesel.

they ALL can't be wrong.

I used to try to pull with a 5.9l gasser dodge. no gutz on hard pulls.. ended up getting WORSE fuel economy than my 7.3l psd's fords.

and this is not a ford / dodge thing. I like ford AND i like dodge. I'd have been fine with a dodge 3500 diesel. i just found the ford first...

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jon f mn

07-02-2013 19:54:23
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to soundguy, 07-02-2013 15:23:04  
Not so fast there, lots of big trucks are switching to natural gas with spark ignition engines for short haul now. Dart has several fleets of them out there and so do many other companies. Dart has some that run Minneapolis to chicago and some in Atlanta and also in El Paso. Not enough filling stations yet for long haul but it's coming. They say they pull fine, but there are some reliability issues yet. I'm sure they will get that figured out tho.

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willie in mn

07-03-2013 04:08:42
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to jon f mn, 07-02-2013 19:54:23  
This is as good a place as any to jump in. Agree, it all depends on the useage. Look at all those yellowish Schwan's ice cream trucks. Freezer bodies are heavy. Run heavy a couple miles, then shut down to make sales calls. Then run again. Low daily mileage. Up until just the last couple years, if it said GMC on the front, it was a 454 running on propane. Not sure how some of the newer rigs are powered. One place I worked some years back had gas big rigs. Boss penciled it out, needed 75000 miles to make diesels pay. Problem was we needed heavy frame/axles etc to handle the weight, but longest haul was 2 miles or less, then lots of dock time, 40 miles a day tops for 1 rig that ran double shift, 5 am to 10 pm. Some only ran 15-20 miles a day. At that rate, it would take 8, & up to 15 years to make diesel cost efficient.
In a nutshell, work it hard, run high miles, diesel gives lower lifetime cost. But lower mileage, lighter loads, lower initial cost, gas costs less over a vehicle's lifetime.
That's my opinion,& I'm sticking to it.
Willie

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charles todd

07-07-2013 22:01:24
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to willie in mn, 07-03-2013 04:08:42  
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8.1L engines.

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G1355

07-08-2013 02:52:35
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to charles todd, 07-07-2013 22:01:24  
The 8.1 is a great motor to, they pull good, just a little hard on fuel.



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PretendFarmer

07-29-2013 07:48:10
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to G1355, 07-08-2013 02:52:35  
Gallon for gallon, diesel fuel contains more energy than Gasoline does. Gas is a solvent, diesel is a lubricant. That is why diesels are more effecient. It's just the way it is. No opinion there, simple fact. That is why diesel engines run 300,000 miles and demand more. The only way a gasser goes that far is if it's babied and it will be tired by then.

I pull trailers. Not every day but several times per month anyways. My gas powered chevy, as reliable as it was couldnt hold a candle to my 97 12v Cummins Dodge 2500. Some of the trailers I pull were too much for the gas. Had to smash the pedal up every hill. I get better towing mileage than the Chevy got unloaded. Thats talking 7500lbs or less. Over that the Dodge pulls it fine but your paying for it. That gasser would cost more fuel.I never had to smash the pedal on this cummins.
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07-03-2013 04:51:05
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to willie in mn, 07-03-2013 04:08:42  
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G1355

07-02-2013 17:51:10
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to soundguy, 07-02-2013 15:23:04  
The diesel should get better mileage pulling, not by much, but just driving there almost identical.



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soundguy

07-02-2013 18:13:10
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to G1355, 07-02-2013 17:51:10  
i get bette rmilag epulling because the truck is not constantly downshifting to 2nd to make a hill. the larger diesel coasts thru....



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T in NE

07-02-2013 18:37:10
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to soundguy, 07-02-2013 18:13:10  
Sometimes you just need to let facts get in the way of a poor argument.



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