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Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle.

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willie in mn

06-30-2013 02:57:42
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My two cents, just another viewpoint. Short stroke V8 would be quicker acceleration off the line, but inline 6 has more brute force & ignorance for the long haul. Just the nature of the beasts. Now gas vs diesel is a whole different discussion.
Willie




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T in NE

06-30-2013 10:52:12
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to willie in mn, 06-30-2013 02:57:42  
Even an inline 6 vs a similarly sized v8 (say, the Ford 300 vs 302) the 302 will rev harder and have more horse, but the 300 will make more torque at lower RPM and won't fall on its face as bad in a hard pull. An I6 just likes to make torque.



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mj

07-03-2013 14:01:39
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to T in NE, 06-30-2013 10:52:12  
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I agree with that - I've had experience with the 300 vs. the 302 and I believe that the 300 Ford I6 is the best light truck engine Ford or anyone else has ever built AND I am NOT a FoMoCo fan but I will give credit where it's due :wink:



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Caseyc

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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to T in NE, 06-30-2013 10:52:12  
^^^ Agreed ^^^ I have owned both. While the V8 will get you from point A to point B faster, there's usually a lot of shifting going on keeping the rpm's up. I still have an old 300 straight six and it has out lugged any V8 I've owned. Currently own three generations of cummins. Newest being a 2007 with the 6.7. There's no way a 5.7 hemi could reliably keep up for any amount of time. Now my old 1993 12 valve, yes, he'd leave me in the dust. But, what kind of shape is that hemi gonna be in 300,000 miles and 20 years later? My 12 valve is still kickin along just fine with no signs of slowing down....

Casey in SD

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soundguy

07-01-2013 06:04:01
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to Caseyc, 06-30-2013 20:50:58  
i like my 99 7.3psd reliable. pulls good. feels good and safe towing... etc..



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T in NE

06-30-2013 21:43:46
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to Caseyc, 06-30-2013 20:50:58  
Told my sister to try saving some money, she'd like a truck. Keeping an eye on early-mid-90s F-150s with the 300 and 5 speed, they don't rust as bad out here. It's that or double the money into an early Cummins to fix things like the teflon-based primer and really poor wiring, and add the complications of having a diesel in cold weather. My 90's about perfect for me, but something a little less complicated- and with parts more readily available- would be better for her.

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Matt L

07-02-2013 20:10:50
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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to T in NE, 06-30-2013 21:43:46  
I dont think I could have a gas powered work truck again. My first plow truck got 5 mpg plowing snow. Both cummins trucks get 10mpg plus plowing snow. It doesnt help that I like the screw around sometimes either. Both cummins are turned up is prolly why. I never did with the gas trucks even when they were mod'd.

Far as towing gas doesnt hold a candle to the ol cummins. I have never got below 12mpg towing 10k plus. I also make ~400whp in the one truck. It makes hills look alot easier then my 360 powered 1 ton with 488;s ever did.

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