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Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners

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G1355

03-25-2013 14:51:13
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Same power lol, 475hp and its gonna be 510ft lb. of torque,there gonna revise it from the car to get more torque, and the ford 6.2 will compete lol, best joke I've ever heard, the 6.2 ford has 385hp and 405ft lb. or torque, the 5.7 hemi has more both, the 6.4 hemi is gonna be WILD.

Click on the link, ford website saying the 6.2 is gonna be very disappointing trying to keep up with the 6.4 next year, because they can barely compete with the 5.7 already.

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farmer boy

03-25-2013 20:53:50
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to G1355, 03-25-2013 14:51:13  
You've got to pay attention to what I'm saying, I said the 6.2 will outdo the 5.7 Hemi, WITH EQUAL GEARS. Scratch that. YOU said that the 6.2 would outdo the 5.7 Hemi. You were the one that said that "There's no replacement for displacment, which use to be true. Technology is the replacement now. The 5.7 Hemi doesn't have any more technology than the 6.2. The Hemi has more HP(the thing race cars need), they have equal torque, but the Ford has the displacement. Without a doubt, a 5.0L V-8 Eco-Boost, if it existed, would walk all over a 6.4L Hemi in every aspect. From performance to mileage. Look at the 3.5L Eco-Boost. It will keep up with a 5.7 Hemi WITH EQUAL GEARS. I still can't beleive you're dumb enough to think it's fair to compare a truck with 3.55 gears to a truck with 4.56 gears. Do you know why Dodge has 16 plugs in that engine? Do you know why Dodge is offering a diesel in their 1/2 tons? To meet emissions and meet average mileage requirments. Says something for the average mileage of their current line-up. ON TOP OF THAT, the Hemi will be DEAD AS A ROCK in a few years time. Direct inject turbo-charged gas and diesel engines are the future.

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G1355

03-26-2013 05:19:06
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-25-2013 20:53:50  
Ya the ecoboost may keep up with the hemi, won't out do it, and keep dreaming on that 5.0 ecoboost, the 6.4 is gonna be in its own class, no one will compete next year, and you are saying how bad dodges fuel economy is haha, they have 25mpg in the 1500, might be with a v6 but its the best out of anyone in a truck.



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farmer boy

03-26-2013 05:32:08
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to G1355, 03-26-2013 05:19:06  
Do you hear yourself? Buy a 5.7 Hemi if you want the same power as an Eco-Boost, buy a V-6 if you want the same mileage. The Eco-Boost offers both power and fuel economy. That's why the Hemi is going to be dead. It's old technology. Look at all the new engines coming out. They're all direct inject turbocharged gas and diesel engines. Now lets talk 6.4 Hemi. The 3.5 can keep up with a 5.7 Hemi. If the HP numbers stayed proportional with displacement, then a 5.0 Eco-Boost could put out 521 hp and 600lb.ft. of torque. If it existed, a 5.0 would run circles around the 6.4. Not only that, the peak HP and peak torque both occur at lower rpm's then in the Hemi, which is preferred in a truck. What good does torque do you at 4000+ rpm.

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G1355

03-26-2013 14:27:07
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-26-2013 05:32:08  
5.0 ecoboost keep dreaming, no ecoboost will beat a 5.7 hemi, and buy a Prius if your so obsessed with fuel economy,


Can't seem to awnser my question either, why isn't the ecoboost available in f250 if its so great.



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farmer boy

03-26-2013 22:32:21
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to G1355, 03-26-2013 14:27:07  
You're the one that mentioned the V-6 car engine that gives the Ram the ability to get good mileage. Go to YouTube and take a look at the videos of races. Of the videos I could find, it was about half-half. It's a new engine, it's available in the most popular truck. The one that makes or breaks their truck division. It's incredible how blind you are. We'll see in a few years who was right. The Hemi will be as dead as a 350 SBC. It's over for that crap. It's old almost dead technology. The numbers tell one story, and you just keep telling me how your PowerWagon with 4.56 gears beats your counsin's Eco-Boost 3.55 gears. Not a big surprise. Now put a truck with 3.55 gears and a Hemi and a truck with 3.55 gears and an Eco-Boost against each other,and the difference you claim to be there is gone. Any ability you have to kill an Eco-Boost is because of your final gear ratio. Period. It ain't because of the 5.7 or a superior transmission. There's alot of people who don't have their Daddy's money burning a hole through their pocket. They have to pay for gas, so mileage matters to them. Even a contractor or somebody who uses the truck day in and day out, who use it both as a crew transporter and tow rig, have to worry about mileage. At the end of the day your truck is a toy. I could get the same work done with a 15 year old 3/4 ton Chevy. You don't need all the extra's, it's just an expensive toy to you.

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03-27-2013 06:06:51
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-26-2013 22:32:21  
That's alright, everyone needs a toy, its kinda my baby, she gets washed weekly if not two or three times a week, and waxed monthly, and a half ton just wouldn't do what I need it to do, the ecoboost would make me a good grocery getter that's about it. Lol hope you have luck with it, twin turbos sound like a expensive bill after warentees out.



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