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Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners

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scotc

03-23-2013 14:40:55
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THE urea injection on the 13's is supposed to help with fuel mileage through fewer DPF regens.

You can't delete them anymore, the EPA came knocking on the doors of the people making the programmers. The ones who opted to stay in business ended up paying out over 3/4 million dollars for it, and are supposed to buy the tuners back. One company saw the fine and opted to close the doors. The new Smarty tuners are also programmed to reject the ME (emissions delete) programs, so even if you find someone who has the programming, you are SOL.

Next problem is the dealers. The latest computer flash from MOPAR disables the bootloader, which is what allows you to run a tuner. If you have an aftermarket tune loaded and they flash the computer, it de-tunes itself severely until you return it to stock.

The duramax guys I guess are going into the ECM physically to alter it, no tuner, no EPA problems.

The oil companies in North Dakota and Canada are trading the diesels off for gassers, in winter the exhaust can't get hot enough to do a regen, and why bother with a truck that won't run right for 1/2 the year?

You wont' find me in another diesel truck unless it is a 7.3 or a Cummins built before 2003.

And Ford owns Cummings. Cummins builds engines.

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jddriver

03-24-2013 13:40:29
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to scotc, 03-23-2013 14:40:55  
Scot ford dont own CUMMINS notice it is Cummins not cummings



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G1355

03-23-2013 19:51:21
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to scotc, 03-23-2013 14:40:55  
No ford DOES NOT own cummins, a lot of people think that but ford has nothing to do with cummins, look it up.



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farmer boy

03-24-2013 08:50:31
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to G1355, 03-23-2013 19:51:21  
Ford did actually own a small piece of Cummins. They sold it back to Cummins, and they now have little to do with each other, other than Ford using some Cummins engines in their commercial trucks. Quit with the Ram obsession. There are only a couple good things good about Ram. #1-Cummins engine #2-Manual transmission. That means that the 1500 and gas 2500/3500 trucks are worthless, because they have neither

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scot cee

03-24-2013 15:47:07
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-24-2013 08:50:31  
Someone might go back and read the post title before they jump on my back.

And then re-read my last sentence in the post above.



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G1355

03-24-2013 16:17:01
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to scot cee, 03-24-2013 15:47:07  
Might be, but ford doesn't own cummins many people say that and need corrected, they owned stock at one time, they don't any more, ford has nothing to do with it, they should look in to using them in there trucks instead of the powerjoke, but the rest of the truck has along was to go to catch up with the dodge ram.



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farmer boy

03-24-2013 17:41:47
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to G1355, 03-24-2013 16:17:01  
You are kidding right? The rest of the truck has along way to go to catch up with RAM? Ford has never really had major quality issues like Ram has. #1, They have a great frame. #2 They have great axles. #3. They have good suspension. I seem to recall Dodge having the worst front suspension known to mankind from 1994-2007/8. Does death wobble ring a bell? #4 The 7.3 and 6.7 are both great engines with VERY few problems. Ford transmissions are no more problematic than Dodge's transmissions

It's been said that the ultimate truck would be a Ford chassis/body with a Cummins and an Allison transmission.

Who, in your opinion, makes/uses the best/most durable chassis, engine, body and transmission.

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D-C-741

04-04-2013 11:20:30
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-24-2013 17:41:47  
Well Ford Frame Are some of the Worst/ Extra Hole made in Them,Great Axals Dana Axals Are Made By Chysler Corp =Made Cheaper for Ford Trucks /Ford Trucks Needing Extra Springs Added to Keep The truck Riding Level /Bumper Draging on the Road /Death Wobble = Stablizer Cylinder =even Fords Used Them /7.3 ,6.7 Ford [ IH ,Ford Junk Shared Motors] ,Most of the ones Around here Need Repairs or Replacement by ther time they get 50000-150000 miles on them, Good Where ? /Transmissions Most of Fords Transmissions are made for them ,at Chysler Corp Factorys .As for Cummins Motor in a Ford Trucks = to Dodge trucks / Cant Happen Do to the Contract with DODGE & CASE [Tennico Corp ]Who Fronted The Dollers To Come Up with these New Style Cummins Motors/ If Dodge trucks Use the Motors = Ford Can NOT Use them.

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Brian Jasper co. Ia

04-13-2013 03:24:09
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to D-C-741, 04-04-2013 11:20:30  
DC, you have some factual issues. Dana Corp is not part of Chrysler and in the larger Ford trucks they use a Sterling axle. Chrysler and GM both use AAM (American Axle Manufacturing) axles...



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G1355

03-24-2013 18:15:57
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-24-2013 17:41:47  
Not to mention FASTEST growing truck brand in America. Oh and the air ride on 1500 with leveling suspension is neat also. Know gm and Cadillac have used it on cars and suburbans/escalades. But will be nice on a 1500 truck,, probebly be on the 2500 and bigger in the near future, if airride holds up on semis it will hold up on a pickup.



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G1355

03-24-2013 17:53:10
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-24-2013 17:41:47  
Well to start off, i think dodge best frame, and the 2010 and newer defiantly rides better than ford, Chevy has the transmission, but in the gas trucks including 2500 and bigger dodge has there new 6 speed is good, not an Allison but its good. Better than Chevy or fords gas truck transmissions, and looks as the body is opinion and I like the dodge ram, and gmc/Chevy is 2nd.... If I had to choose another brand it would be a Chevy or gmc, preferably a gmc

We all have our favorites and not everyone will agree, it's just the way life is.

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scot cee

03-24-2013 17:38:21
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to G1355, 03-24-2013 16:17:01  
If you look at the post title, it says "cumminGs".

I wrote "ford owns cumminGs, cummins makes engines"

Did you not go back and look again?



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scot cee

04-14-2013 19:01:22
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to scot cee, 03-24-2013 17:38:21  
I guess no one went back and read anything again.



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G1355

03-24-2013 10:54:54
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-24-2013 08:50:31  
Yes we know ford once owned stock, no more, and for the 1500, it has a hemi and the 8 speed, both good, for the 2500 and 3500 gas, the have a hemi, and there 6 speed automatic also a very good transmission, and to top it off 3 tons more towing on ford or Chevy, when comparing gas to gas or diesel to diesel, one other thing who else offers a 2500 that will do what a powerwagon will, that's right no one.

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farmer boy

03-24-2013 17:14:25
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to G1355, 03-24-2013 10:54:54  
The claims you make are crazy. #1, and I pointed this out last time, Dodge has the worst GWVR in the industry. On the lowest package available, Dodge has an 8,650 gvwr, Chevy has a 9,500 gvwr, and Ford has a 9,900lb gvwr. With better models, Chevy goes up to 9,900 lbs and Dodge goes up to 9,000lbs with the diesel, but that only covers the extra weight of the diesel.

A 2012 Ram 2500 gas with 4.10 gears 4x4 has a tow rating of 13,800lbs and a payload rating of 2618lbs.

A 2012 Ford has a tow rating of 15,300lbs with 4.30 gears and 4x4 and a payload rating of 3790lbs. I can"t seem to find the #"s for Chevy, but what I have so far proves that your "3 tons more tow capacity" claim is pure crap.

You previously went on about how the Eco-boost isn"t a proven engine yet. Guess what? Neither is the 8-speed. We have yet to see what it can take, whether towing 10,000lbs is going to fry it or not. You keep forgetting the Raptor. It will do everything the PowerWagon will do. Only difference is Ford can do with a 1/2 ton what Dodge needs a 3/4 ton to do.

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G1355

03-24-2013 17:56:25
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-24-2013 17:14:25  
No the raptor will not, that is not a rock climbing muddin truck, that is made for jumping, it's a trophy truck, completely different, the raptor is comparable to the ram runner, the powerwagon is its own class, no competitors, helps when you know what a raptor and powerwagon is.



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G1355

03-24-2013 17:54:10
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-24-2013 17:14:25  
2013 not 2012,



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scot c

03-24-2013 17:45:53
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to farmer boy, 03-24-2013 17:14:25  
Dodge built the Power Wagon on the 3/4 ton chassis for the solid front axle.



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G1355

03-24-2013 18:00:42
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 Re: Calling 6.7 Cummings Owners in reply to scot c, 03-24-2013 17:45:53  
With front/rear differentials, no other truck has, including other dodges, gas shocks, 12,000 pound warn winch, unhook able sway bar, for 18 inches of movement on the front axle, skid plates, 180 amp alternator, 33 inch bf Goodrich tires, on 17" aluminum rims, 3 inches more clearance than any other 2500. And more. The powerwagon option is 900 dollars more than the cummins.



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