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Re: I'm shopping for a gooseneck flatbed trailer

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willie in mn

12-21-2012 00:50:31

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The 8 foot wide can be an advantage. In several states 102" wide not allowed on state/county roads, only on Interstate System.

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d beatty

12-21-2012 05:59:17

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 Re: I'm shopping for a gooseneck flatbed trailer in reply to willie in mn, 12-21-2012 00:50:31  
What state can't you pull a 102" in because all the trailer our companies fleet the last 15 years are 102" 48 and 53 footers . The old 8 footers that we use to use are now storage trailers. We went every where in the 4 state area we covered even into residental neighbor hoods with 102's. We have three companies in Indiana that build semi trailers and the last 10 years all you see in the lots that they store new trailer they are 102's.

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willie in mn

12-21-2012 18:46:03

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 Re: I'm shopping for a gooseneck flatbed trailer in reply to d beatty, 12-21-2012 05:59:17  
ref- Rand McNally Motor Carriers Atlas, 2012 edition, page A16, State/provincial weight & size limits. Note- 102" legal on Interstate System, all states.
Alabama- 96" on hiways with lane widths under 12'
Washington D C 96"
Florida- 96" on lanes less than 12'
Louisiana-96" Michigan-96", 102" on designated highways only
Missouri- 102" if less than 10 miles from Interstate, otherwise 96"
New Jersey-96", 102" on designated routes
New York- 102" on 10'lanes, otherwise 96"
Pennsylvania-96",102" on designated highways.

That's what the book says is legal. What is actually done is sometimes completely different. When I started in the business, 38' x96" was the most common size. Then came 40', 45', 48'x102", & from 93 until retirement I pulled 53' x 102".
In 93/94, Maine & Utah if pulling 53' had to call scalehouse before entering state for permit. Washington state pick up 53'permit at first scalehouse. In Iowa under the old 96" rules, only mirrors could be wider than 96". CB antenna at edge of mirror had to be removed. Don't get me started on length rules.
Willie diesel pilot-retired

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d beatty

12-21-2012 20:45:58

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 Re: I'm shopping for a gooseneck flatbed trailer in reply to willie in mn, 12-21-2012 18:46:03  
Willie I don't think that michigan watchs that law .We had permits for all of lower Michigan and we pulled 102" every where in the state and never got stopped or even looked by police. I retired in 2010 after 38 years with the same company. Like you I have seen a lot of changes in the trucking industry over the years. I miss driving and some of our customers but don't miss the everyday trying to beat the clock.

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willie in mn

12-22-2012 01:28:31

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 Re: I'm shopping for a gooseneck flatbed trailer in reply to d beatty, 12-21-2012 20:45:58  
d beatty
Agree about not being looked at or stopped. Not many locals or County Mounties pay attention to size, & "it looked overwidth" is not "probable cause" to make a stop. However,& this is the rub, in case someone else does something stupid & there is a collision, & his insurance carrier pushes the matter, the 102" wide will be liable for damages as it is illegal for it to be there. Have seen it happen.
And yes, I have been on a few roads where I shouldn't have been. Was stopped on I-35 in St Paul in a stagecoach, "prohibited veh on parkway". Signs said "trucks over 12000# prohibited", trooper said "it looked prtty heavy". I took it to court with pics of signs that were posted at entrance ramps. City attorney looked up definitions: truck-veh designed to transport cargo, bus- veh designed to transport passengers.
Judge said " according to definition & signs posted, bus not prohibited, case dismissed".
As we both have said, what the book says, & what is actually done, aren't always the same.
Willie J

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willie in mn

12-22-2012 01:33:25

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 Re: I'm shopping for a gooseneck flatbed trailer in reply to willie in mn, 12-22-2012 01:28:31  
Oh, Shuckey Darn, hit wrong button again. As mentioned last night, I was in NYC one afternoon, over width, over tailer length, & over total length. But on a Friday at 5:00 pm, they are busy with other things. Making a stop to measure would cause more traffic blockage than letting things slide.

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willie in mn

12-21-2012 18:49:12

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 Re: I'm shopping for a gooseneck flatbed trailer in reply to willie in mn, 12-21-2012 18:46:03  
Missed one item. Even pulled 53' x 102", 73' total length in the financial district (Wall Street) when NYC limit was 40' x 96", 55' total length.

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