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Re: DOT safety or money (very long post)

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09-30-2012 12:55:44

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I think some of you ought to do some checking before engaging the fingers. All those DOT Rules and Regs you hate, like HOS for instance? INDUSTRY is the driving force behind those rules. INDUSTRY sits on the board creating the rules and regs and has more input than the other members. INDUSTRY can make a call to their bought and paid for Senator or Congressman and bring heat on the other parties involved. Don't ever forget it's INDUSTRY advisers making the call on a large percentage of the rules and regs.

Now as for is it a safety game or a revenue game, all I can tell you is I got my job as a DOT Inspector after being a road Trooper for 16 years right after 9/11. The Feds gave grant money to the States to beef up DOT enforcement for National Security reasons. In that sense it was about safety. I was trained with the idea in mind we were about safety, that was drilled into us over and over. In the field, yeah, you had to have a decent number of inspections and tickets. I might have done 6-7 inspections a day, sometimes more, sometimes less. If I had a choice between writing a guy a serious ticket or a fix it ticket, assuming the guy wasn't clown with a chip on his shoulder and a giant sized attitude, I'd give him the fix it ticket. If you were a jerk, tough luck pal, you brought the crap on yourself. On the whole, I'd say 98% of the drivers I dealt with were as polite as I was, were as professional as I was and realized I was doing my best to get them out of there ASAP. Now the rag head retard that started the truck while I was down between the drivers.......that guy was not professional, polite or a very good listener, although he seemed to pay an awful lot more attention to what I was saying after I got out from under the truck in .038759 nanoseconds and grabbed him by the face and drug him out of the truck. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but my adrenalin might have had something to do with that. There were a few Russian mob types that weren't too pleasant and more than a few complete retards that shouldn't have had any type of license at all, but overall truckers were a lot nicer to deal with than your average welfare mutt, trailer park wife beating low life. Canadian drivers were a cut above American drivers I'm sorry to say. Wasn't like that a few years before, but Canada straightened stuff out and I'll put any American truck and driver up against a Robert truck and driver, for instance, any day of the week. The truck are spotless, in perfect repair and the drivers are professional, on the ball and very. very rarely have an issue with anything, at least on this side of the St Lawrence.

The revenue part? Of course the politicians and bureaucrats want it to make money. Does it? No. I can't think of any public sector entity that produces a profit. Police don't, firemen and EMTs certainly don't, the Forest service or EnCon don't, Welfare, schools, IRS, military don't. So I don;t expect that any argument could be made that a profit is expected by anyone other than bean counters and a few Marxists. The same people that believe simply taxing people more will solve the debt crisis might be the same ones believing a police force can generate enough tickets to pay for itself, the court system and the administration behind it. They can't, it won't, fugetaboutit.

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10-03-2012 12:48:22

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 Re: DOT safety or money (very long post) in reply to Bret4207, 09-30-2012 12:55:44  
Kinda hard to say there is no money being made when you go to pay a $25.00 ticket and there is a $165.00 'mandatory surcharge' and "we don't take credit or debit cards or checks but we have an atm right by the payment window".

" I got out from under the truck in .038759 nanoseconds and grabbed him by the face and drug him out of the truck"

Respectfully I worked in law enforcement for 27 years and when I hear a statement like that I have to think that the rest of the story is the four good men backing you up.

Grabbing a stranger 'by the face' one on one is an excellent strategy if you intend to get your dentures scattered all over the rest area.


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10-08-2012 05:07:09

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 Re: DOT safety or money (very long post) in reply to Brad Buchanan, 10-03-2012 12:48:22  
i wonder if its the young cops, or their training they receive today they seem to have a 'us against them; attitude, seems it used to be different, i had a friend or 2 back in the day who were cops, both did not think like that one thing a cop must have is respect, or he will never be able to do his job, now one of my friends was not your average cop this guy was huge, not fat, but big and built like a bull moose, i have seen him stop a fist fight one time simply by walking in the bar, he didnt even say anything yet and the 2 gents going at it stopped, they knew what was going to happen if they didnt , he hauled both to the clink with nobody else helping, today it seems to take 4 to 6 of them to do the same job

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10-03-2012 17:22:47

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 Re: DOT safety or money (very long post) in reply to Brad Buchanan, 10-03-2012 12:48:22  
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And with equal lack of respect, I did 23 years as a NYS Trooper. If you needed 4 other people to remove one idiot from a vehicle that's your problem. Any real cop should have the respect not to allege someone he's never laid eyes on is a liar. Beyond that, are you attempting to assert that the fine money covers the cost of the court system, the police involved, the administration behind those people, the training, the vehicles, the other unseen expenses on up the ladder? Really? Sure you don't want to re-think that?

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