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Re: To weigh or not to weigh

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mkirsch

08-22-2012 06:09:37
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BINGO!

RATINGS have nothing to do with it. It's all about how much weight you paid for when you registered the truck and trailer.

On large commercial trucks, it is just a coincidence that the factory ratings and the registered weight are the same. They also happen to be the maximum amounts allowed by DOT law based on the number of axles and the size of the tire tread footprint.
In the case of commercial trucking you want to be able to haul the maximum allowable by law to maximize profits. That's why you'll even see 1 ton duallys and goosenecks registered for as much as 33,000lbs gross.

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chevytaHOE5674

08-27-2012 06:56:44
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 Re: To weigh or not to weigh in reply to mkirsch, 08-22-2012 06:09:37  
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All depends on the state. In Michigan my truck has farm plates that are based on the empty weight of the vehicle, and my trailer is registered by its empty weight. It isn't registered for any maximum weight.



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FC Andy

08-27-2012 13:47:49
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 Re: To weigh or not to weigh in reply to chevytaHOE5674, 08-27-2012 06:56:44  

chevytaHOE5674 said: (quoted from post at 06:56:44 08/27/12)
mkirsch said: (quoted from post at 06:09:37 08/22/12)
BINGO!

RATINGS have nothing to do with it. It's all about how much weight you paid for when you registered the truck and trailer.


All depends on the state. In Michigan my truck has farm plates that are based on the empty weight of the vehicle, and my trailer is registered by its empty weight. It isn't registered for any maximum weight.


This very discussion led me to find out the laws here in Michigan, I couldn't find an official michigan.gov website with the info, but I found another that seemed to be accurate. The understanding I came to, here in MI, is that "commercial vehicles" need to pull in to a weigh station. The law also defines a "commercial vehicle" as any truck, trailer, or combination weighing over 10,000 lbs. Right in the document it says that these laws pertain to private and commercial haulers. The way I read it, My 3/4 ton, (about 7,000 lb empty) hooked to my Gooseneck (5,500 empty) will make me have to pull in, at least in MI. -Andy

http://www.truckingsafety.org/faq/faqgen.htm
This post was edited by FC Andy at 13:56:30 08/27/12.

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Wes(MI)

08-27-2012 17:43:26
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 Re: To weigh or not to weigh in reply to FC Andy, 08-27-2012 13:47:49  
Exactly, private or commercial. If you have a dba you are private. It also states at the front of the CDL book, if it is personal property the CDL laws do NOT apply. You can load up a tractor-trailer with your PERSONAL property and drive it from Monroe to Escanaba and need NOTHING but an operator licence.



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FC Andy

08-27-2012 17:59:16
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Hmm, I find that interesting. I just took my F endorsement tests last year, and I don't recall reading that in my CDL book. My book is also about 10 years old, though. May not have been in that book. I thought you needed at least an F endorsement. Maybe that is because a farm owned truck is for a business? -Andy



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Wes(MI)

08-28-2012 16:44:11
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 Re: To weigh or not to weigh in reply to FC Andy, 08-27-2012 17:59:16  
That is correct Andy. It is owned and operated by the farm (business). Farm vehicles in MI do have some 'exemptions' over other private and commercial vehicles. MI classifies vehicles into 3 categories: personal, private & commercial. Some rules do/ do not apply to all 3. That's why I tell people to call the state police / hiway patrol talk to an officer, and get their name & post #. I've had good results with Flint & Monroe posts.

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