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Tractor Transporting Discussion Forum

Re: Does a trailer over 10,000 lbs require a CDL

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Butch(OH)

07-09-2012 18:48:14
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Sorry I dont mean to come of as being abrasive. Here is a link to a flow chart that makes it easy to see that any trailer over 10,000 lbs puts a person into CDL territory as does any combo with GVWs excedding 26,000 assuming again, that it is a commercial apllication. This was a big deal at my company when the law was changed several years ago as we have 4 pintle trailers over 10,000 GVW.

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George Marsh

07-10-2012 15:31:22
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 Re: Does a trailer over 10,000 lbs require a CDL in reply to Butch(OH), 07-09-2012 18:48:14  
I heard about a young INDOT officer stopping a guy. His trailer had a 9k plates, however the trailer was rated at 14k. The truck was commercial and had DOT#s on it. Combined gross was under 26k and the trailer wasn't over the 9k plates. Cop gave driver a warning for not having a CDL. He said it didn't matter what the plates said, it was what the trailer was rated for. Guess what, I removes the factory sticker on my trailer? I too have 9k plates on a 14k trailer and no CDL!

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John in la

07-09-2012 19:30:35
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 Re: Does a trailer over 10,000 lbs require a CDL in reply to Butch(OH), 07-09-2012 18:48:14  
Butch

Do not get me wrong. I do not want to sound abrasive; and I surelly do not think that about you. I just want to get this out in the open so everyone can see the facts and learn from it.

From what I am reading you think that even though my truck and trailer have a GCWR less than 26,000 lbs I still need a CDL because my trailer has a GVWR over 10,000 lbs.

So lets use the flow chart you linked....

Is the vehicle a combination

Yes

Is the GCWR more than 26,000 lbs

No

Is the GVWR of the power unit 26,000 lbs

No

Do you tranport hazmat or passengers

No and No

NO CDL REQUIRED

We did not even get to the question about the trailer GVWR because the GCWR is less than 26,000 lbs.

We can talk about some other points you made in your orginal post I do not agree with if you would like.

I will also add......

You do not have to be commercial to need a CDL

CDL applys to everyone.

From the Iowa book you linked. page 9

A commercial driverís license (CDL) is required for anyone driving any of the following sizes or types of vehicles.

Read that statement word for word and show me where it says commercial trucks only.
This post was edited by john in la at 19:51:22 07/09/12.

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Butch(OH)

07-10-2012 04:13:35
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 Re: Does a trailer over 10,000 lbs require a CDL in reply to John in la, 07-09-2012 19:30:35  
You are indeed correct and I stand corrected. I was told different and our company policy is different so I was like blinded or something. So much for my expert status,,,,



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JimEvans

07-09-2012 19:25:57
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 Re: Does a trailer over 10,000 lbs require a CDL in reply to Butch(OH), 07-09-2012 18:48:14  
Read the flow chart again and follow the arrows this time.

The flow chart says:

Is the vehicle a combination vehicle (YES)

Is the GCWR greater than 26,000 (NO)

Is the GCWR of the power unit greater than 26,000 (No)

Is the vehicle transporting hazardous materials (NO)

Is the vehicle designed to transport 16 or more passengers (NO)

CDL NOT REQUIRED.

Notice that if you are under 26,000 GCWR, then the size of the trailer DOESN'T MATTER
This post was edited by JimEvans at 19:30:16 07/09/12.

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