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Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle.

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gtx1967jewison said: (quoted from post at 23:10:44 05/11/12) They all run offload fuel. But still its more $ to drive per mile
than a gas. The 5-7k more you pay up front will fuel a gasser
for 14,000 miles at todays prices & 10mpg. That's 7 yrs of
fuel at 2k miles per yr. Then its easier to sell besides.

It depends on what you want out of your truck. My 3/4 ton Dodge Diesel will pull 14k GN (legally)all day long running 70-75mph and laugh at 10 mpg. The same truck with a hemi, can only legally pull 10k and wish it could get 10mpg, running at 55-60mph.

I'm not interested in what Joe the farmer does with his farm tag exempt from the law truck. The DOT don't care spit about, somebodies opinion of what their truck will do, they only care about what the OEM says the truck can do.

If you pull less than 10K, once,twice,three times a year a diesel is probably overkill. And the math works. If however you are in my position and do some hobby tractor pulling, collecting, restoring. You need a truck that will legally pull a 14K GN. A 3/4 ton anything with a gas engine simply cannot legally even hook up to a 14K GN, because it will be 4K over the GCWR.

I just did a 1k round trip (loaded both ways) from SC to Ohio I-26 to I-40 to I-75. same route on the way back. Pullin my trailer loaded to 11k running speed limit plus 7-8 when traffic allowed the truck averaged 13.94mpg hand calculated for the trip. For those that haven't travelled that route before there is the Saluda grade into North Carolina, and then the climb out of Knoxville to the top of Jellico, with some good long rollers in KY for 185 miles. Try that with a gas engine and you will soon be kicking yourself for not getting the diesel.
FYI my '06 Dodge is bone stock with no mods and has 88k on the clock. If you are Ford or Chevy fans I understand, that you may not enjoy such milage unloaded let alone loaded, and for that I apoligize, for I am not trying to rub anybodys nose in the dirt, I'm just making a statement of fact. Diesels and gas trucks are not an apple to apple comparison unless the trailer is less than 10K, above that and the only player in the game is a diesel do to legal GCWR.

Almost forgot the resale on a gasser sucks compared to diesel as well. In my part of the world they sell for at least 6-8k less than the same truck with a diesel. Heck even the Ford '03-'07 6.0 sells for 5-6k over a gasser and you know your probably buying a problem that's 3K to fix yourself.
This post was edited by Dodgeit at 11:23:04 05/14/12.

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08-05-2013 17:45:38

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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to Dodgeit, 05-14-2012 11:16:57  
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Lets try that comparison with a late emission truck with particulate filter and urea vs the latest gassers . Now think again when GM releases the DI gassers in the 2015 HD trucks. The diesel will have even less of a case .
The days of diesel being cheaper than gasoline are long gone. Comparisons of diesels vs gassers as if they were 1986 carbed gassers vs a 1986 Cummins are long past too.

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05-28-2012 11:06:44

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 Re: I tried,,,, Cant justify a diesel tow vehicle. in reply to Dodgeit, 05-14-2012 11:16:57  
They care more about the extra fees to register it for a heavier weight than what the GCWR is, considering their is no standard formula for figuring it.

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